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mcdadew



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Starting the Journey� Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

My wife and I are planning to take a sabbatical in about 2 years with our 2 children. We are hoping to take 2-3 years to teach English as a foreign language. I am a native US Citizen and my wife is from Trinidad and Tobago with US Citizenship. We are 39 and 37 respectively. Our kids will be 11 and 9 (dual Citizens) when we want to start our travels. Also, both children are in an immersion school and are fluent in Spanish. The plan is for my wife and me to teach English while the kids continue their schooling abroad. A secondary goal is for my wife and me to turn our many years of class time in Spanish into fluency.

We are beginning the process of structuring our lives (home, finances, etc.) to be able to leave the country. As I continue to do research I am becoming more aware of the need for a CELTA certificate to be competitive. My wife is a trainer by trade and has a lot of experience, but it is all in leadership and organizational design. I have no real training/teaching experience, but I am very comfortable in front of groups. My wife has a BA in International Studies and I have a BA in Philosophy and a MS in Computer Information Systems. We both work at the executive level in our fields.

I have a few questions for this group after lurking for the past few weeks.

1. Do schools usually take �pairs� of teachers? It would be perfect if we could work together at the same location.
2. Are local schools usually open to TEFL teacher�s kids? We would like them to have as much of a local experience as possible.
3. Although, we could supplement our income with savings, the hope is to live on what we earn while abroad. Is this realistic? I have read some postings that single parents should not expect to be able to raise a child on the wages they can expect to earn, can 2 parents with 2 kids?
4. It seems that the Asian market is more open to first time teachers. Although my focus is Spanish speaking countries do you think it may make sense to do a first round in Korea or Thailand and then look for opportunities in Central/South America?
5. I have ordered and am reading a number of books on taking your family abroad, but most of these are geared towards a year or 2 of travel. Any resources more geared to what we are trying to do?


Thanks in advance for any advice.

Bill
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, I think it's great that you want to do that and expose your kids to a new culture, but honestly, it's going to be tough. It's easier for those who can get into intl schools. Teaching in institutes doesn't pay that well. For example, here in Latin America, you'll probbaly get about 700 usd a month and schooling here isn't free, well, public school is, but I don't think that you want to send your kids there.

Peru, for example, you get 700 usd working afternoons and nights, a good school is probably 500 usd.

You could do it, I'd head to Asia where kids are treated like royalty and schools are better, even public schools. Housing might be an issue. In Korea, I got a room. China could be good, cheap cost of living.

You'll probaly have to use some of your savings. Another idea would be to get a job in your field and get transfered overseas, better pay and perks. You're both executives, so I'm sure that you could find good jobs overseas, why teach? To answer your quetsions.

1. Do schools usually take �pairs� of teachers? It would be perfect if we could work together at the same location. Yes

2. Are local schools usually open to TEFL teacher�s kids? We would like them to have as much of a local experience as possible. Yes, but not also free tuition

3. Although, we could supplement our income with savings, the hope is to live on what we earn while abroad. Is this realistic? I have read some postings that single parents should not expect to be able to raise a child on the wages they can expect to earn, can 2 parents with 2 kids? Probably not

4. It seems that the Asian market is more open to first time teachers. Although my focus is Spanish speaking countries do you think it may make sense to do a first round in Korea or Thailand and then look for opportunities in Central/South America? Asia

5. I have ordered and am reading a number of books on taking your family abroad, but most of these are geared towards a year or 2 of travel. Any resources more geared to what we are trying to do? not that I know of. Lots of peopel with kids end up either marrying a local or getting transfered abroad.
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Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting the Journey� Reply with quote

mcdadew wrote:
Hello everyone,

My wife and I are planning to take a sabbatical in about 2 years with our 2 children. We are hoping to take 2-3 years to teach English as a foreign language. I am a native US Citizen and my wife is from Trinidad and Tobago with US Citizenship. We are 39 and 37 respectively. Our kids will be 11 and 9 (dual Citizens) when we want to start our travels. Also, both children are in an immersion school and are fluent in Spanish. The plan is for my wife and me to teach English while the kids continue their schooling abroad. A secondary goal is for my wife and me to turn our many years of class time in Spanish into fluency.

We are beginning the process of structuring our lives (home, finances, etc.) to be able to leave the country. As I continue to do research I am becoming more aware of the need for a CELTA certificate to be competitive. My wife is a trainer by trade and has a lot of experience, but it is all in leadership and organizational design. I have no real training/teaching experience, but I am very comfortable in front of groups. My wife has a BA in International Studies and I have a BA in Philosophy and a MS in Computer Information Systems. We both work at the executive level in our fields.

I have a few questions for this group after lurking for the past few weeks.

1. Do schools usually take �pairs� of teachers? It would be perfect if we could work together at the same location.
2. Are local schools usually open to TEFL teacher�s kids? We would like them to have as much of a local experience as possible.
3. Although, we could supplement our income with savings, the hope is to live on what we earn while abroad. Is this realistic? I have read some postings that single parents should not expect to be able to raise a child on the wages they can expect to earn, can 2 parents with 2 kids?
4. It seems that the Asian market is more open to first time teachers. Although my focus is Spanish speaking countries do you think it may make sense to do a first round in Korea or Thailand and then look for opportunities in Central/South America?
5. I have ordered and am reading a number of books on taking your family abroad, but most of these are geared towards a year or 2 of travel. Any resources more geared to what we are trying to do?


Thanks in advance for any advice.

Bill
I don't have the answers to your five questions but don't listen to those who will tell you "CELTA/Trinity or you're not certified." Do you have a four-year degree? If so, consider going back to school and getting a masters in TESL or Applied Linguistics. Otherwise, look at different courses (not just CELTA/Trinity) and see what they have. At minimum, a course should have 100-120 hours of course content and at least six hours of teaching practice where you teach real ESL/EFL students. Some here will suggest you take an on-site course (with at least the aforementioned minimum content/teaching practice) in the country where you want to teach. If you can do that, there are benefits you'll get from it that you won't get from taking a course elsewhere. Because you have a wife and kids, some options might not be feasible.

There are some online TESL/TEFL certification courses but you really have to check them out carefully and not only find out what content they have but also who (if anyone) accredits them. There's a school in Toronto that does an on-site Trinity course that also offers a 250-hour online course (which is not Trinity; to my knowledge Trinity only does on-site courses) and their teaching practicum (on-site either there or at another school) consists of 10 hours of teacher observation (you observe real teachers) followed by 10 hours of teacher practice (you teach real ESL students). No matter what course you take, make sure it offers at least six hours of teaching practice with real ESL/EFL students.
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