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Mikeylikesit114
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: Criminal Background Check-Shenzhen Z-Visa |
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I have heard that new applicants for Z-visas to work in Shenzhen must submit criminal background checks from their home country. Does anyone know anything about this? Specifically I am interested if this is needed to renew an existing residence permit.
My current residence permit is up before the end of June, and I'd rather not have to take a flight home just to get a stupid background check done.
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curvilinear
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Keep us posted on this as, it's quite interesting. The truth is you can go online and have a company from back home mail it here, so you won't have to fly out.
Search the HK forums on this site for more info. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not have family members sort it out for you? |
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Mikeylikesit114
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| theincredibleegg wrote: |
| Why not have family members sort it out for you? |
I imagine that in order to get an official background check, one must actually be present to provide ID and authorization. |
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Sonnibarger
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| sucks you may need to travel home... I do think it is a good idea though.. seems to me schools here have a little too much faith in FT's... |
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sure this criminal background check is being requested by employer's and not the police. I could be wrong - maybe people can clear this up. |
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xiao51
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: See Below |
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| suanlatudousi wrote: |
| I'm sure this criminal background check is being requested by employer's and not the police. I could be wrong - maybe people can clear this up. |
To the best of my knowledge, it has not yet become the policy of the Government of the People's Republic of China to request "background checks" of foreign teachers in China, with the one notable exception being Inner Mongolia.
The previous poster is correct in my view in that my own experiences lend me to believe, as I have seen in the past, that various employers / recruiters / etc., in the Greater Shenzhen area take it upon themselves to request background checks of FT's and then pass this off as government policy, which it is not. These are mostly kindergartens / private primary schools / language mills, and most of them, believe it or not, of an extremely dubious character. They tend to hire "bottom feeders" so-to-speak and as a result of their own hiring practices, they have been burnt in the past.
I would not submit a background check to one of these institutions under any circumstances, particularly considering that the potential FT does not know where the information might land.
There are so, so many language mills / schools in the Greater Shenzhen area that operate just this side of the law that any foreign teacher is cautioned to execise extreme caution when considering a position there.
I would also like to mention that the Shenzhen area has been particularly hit by the economic crisis that is ravaging the West and I can only wonder as to the state of the balance sheets of many of these language mills / training centers / etc. and how long they will survive in the current state of affairs.
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Xiao Lin |
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Mikeylikesit114
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Xiao Lin,
I work at a government university, and no one here has asked me for a background check.
Last year, the University insisted that I could come here on an L-visa, and then they would be able to convert it to a Z-visa once I got here. Because of the pre-olympics clampdown, this was no longer true, and I had to insist that they give me a Z visa before I left the USA.
Then the university scheduled my residence permit interview with the PSB for the 32nd day after my entry into China. The PSB wanted to charge me criminally, and only relented after my university used its guanxi.
These two experiences lead me to believe that I may be more up to date on new visa regulations than my university's hr department, and that is why I would prefer to find the definitive answer to this question as soon as possible, so I know whether I have to fly back to California before the end of the semester. Call me paranoid if you want, but I like to think of it as being proactive. |
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Mikeylikesit114
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eddy-cool
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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CHINA BRIEFING January 2009 issue:
'The Criminal record certificate:
Over the past few months, additional requirements for obtaining an employment permit in China have begun to be put in place. These include a certification of "no criminal record," to be issued by immigration agencies of foreign governments, on which an official statement must be obtained certifying that the applicant has no prior criminal convictions in his home country. Details to the extent of this documentation, applicable levels of criminal offence, or how it applies to long term reisdents of other countries, yet to be worked out.
The application process varies from country to country, please, check with your embassy for advice.' |
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eddy-cool
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Addendum:
The criminal record ncertificate must be translated into Chinese and the Chinese version will be considered 'official'.
I guess the Chinese will also require you to notarise such certs before you submit them. |
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xiao51
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: See Below |
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| eddy-cool wrote: |
CHINA BRIEFING January 2009 issue:
'The Criminal record certificate:
Over the past few months, additional requirements for obtaining an employment permit in China have begun to be put in place. These include a certification of "no criminal record," to be issued by immigration agencies of foreign governments, on which an official statement must be obtained certifying that the applicant has no prior criminal convictions in his home country. Details to the extent of this documentation, applicable levels of criminal offence, or how it applies to long term reisdents of other countries, yet to be worked out.
The application process varies from country to country, please, check with your embassy for advice.' |
Nonetheless the China Review, mentioned byh the previous poster, is not an official publication of the Government of the People's Republic of China. It is a trade magazine published by a marketing aka law aka investment firm in Beijing. It cannot and has no authority to speak for the Central Government and I have even searched for the article in question, cited by the previous poster, in the January edition and was unable to locate either the cite, etc., etc.
I would encourage him or her to publish the exact cite. Prudence on this board dictatest that we refrain from raising canards and creating minipanics unless the entire matter can be substantiated by official documentation.
For example, in a previous post, with all due respect, I was forced to correct this poster on what he wrote concerning visas in Hong Kong because the information provided did not match the facts at all
Prudence in all things and it is better to err on the side of caution than rumor.
Sincerely,
Xial Lin |
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| I believe tht Eddie is correct in his post, China Briefing was headed up by Chris Devinshire, (spelling?), he recently stepped down due to a mistake made during his interview with a gov. official in whihc the exchange rate was dicussed and a quote was attributed to the official as to the exchange rate.... |
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mike w
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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This wouldn't be the first time that 'China Briefing' has given out misinformation.
I seem to remember that about 7 years ago their website was temporarily suspended by the government for something similar. |
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Buck Lin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| Don't play the stock exchange while you are here. |
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