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Itsme

Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 624 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: Just my perception or are more wanting to come to China? |
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I don't remember there being so many people who show up on the board and post
"Hi I want to come to China, any suggestions?"
Is it just me or is the competition heating up? |
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Just my perception or are more wanting to come to China? |
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Itsme wrote: |
I don't remember there being so many people who show up on the board and post
"Hi I want to come to China, any suggestions?"
Is it just me or is the competition heating up? |
More competition will mean schools have no incentive to lift salaries. |
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Peter Wales
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 63
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Just my perception or are more wanting to come to China? |
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therock wrote: |
Itsme wrote: |
I don't remember there being so many people who show up on the board and post
"Hi I want to come to China, any suggestions?"
Is it just me or is the competition heating up? |
More competition will mean schools have no incentive to lift salaries. |
But they will have an incentive to LOWER salaries...... |
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Buck Lin
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 405 Location: nanchang china
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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It means more people fighting for a piece of your salary. Salaries have gone down here for the past twenty years. The best gig is for a nineteen year old blond teaching at a kindergarden for 10,000 a month. Any degree is looked down on. |
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theincredibleegg
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 224
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Buck Lin wrote: |
It means more people fighting for a piece of your salary. Salaries have gone down here for the past twenty years. The best gig is for a nineteen year old blond teaching at a kindergarden for 10,000 a month. Any degree is looked down on. |
What's the point in paying more for an actual teacher? FT positions in China are not designed for teachers anyway. It's like employing an MD in gastronomics to flip hamburgers at McDonalds - A total waste of money. |
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Jayray
Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone noticed a decline in long-term members? There could be a correlation. |
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Buck Lin
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 405 Location: nanchang china
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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People who stay in China keep a low profile, fly under the radar and don't poste negative comments on Dave's about their school. China needs foreign teachers drastically. The demand is high in places off the beaten track. The students demand foreign teachers. The students rule here. |
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rmcdougall
Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I am very happy to announce that this year I've received a wonderful deluge of experienced and qualitifed applicants from the Phillipines.
I have worked hard to educate my Chinese administration on these candidates and we will now be hiring them for many of our open positions.
I feel that history shows us that by education, we open new doors. |
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Eyrick3

Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 161 Location: Beijing, China
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Is it not possible that by China becoming a more popular destination for ESL teachers that schools will start holding higher expectations, and therefore get more qualified applicants?
I've never been to Japan or Korea, but I do understand that if you don't have a four-year degree, you don't get a job, and this has largely to do with the fact that these are popular places for ESL teachers as they are familiarly modern and industrialized countries which offer the creature comforts of the West, yet still have that exotic eastern flare. They satisfy one's desire to travel somewhere "new" and "strange", yet not too off the beaten path to make one completely aware that they're no longer in Kansas.
Now, not every person in possession of a four-year degree is guaranteed to be a fantastic teacher, however doesn't it seem more likely that people who do have a four-year degree will be a better teacher than someone who decided not to go to university at all?
Sure, the "Chinese government" says having a BA is mandatory to work here lawfully, but we all know that those without degrees have no problems either finding employment or getting their visas, and that's because the demand is so high. Should the demand fall, schools are still going to need teachers, but they're going to require higher qualifications and set higher standards. Those with all of the above plus experience will still have no problems finding a job or a good salary. |
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YAMARI
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 247 Location: shanghai
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Lots of teachers jumping ship in Korea end up in China. They are leaving Korea now because of the horrible Korean won and visas troubles. |
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bradley
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 235 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I agree that more teachers are coming here now. I've met quite a few teachers who have worked in Korea or Japan before. The industry is booming here. |
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