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haopengyou
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 Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: Do I need my birth certificate? and citizenship papers? |
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I am starting the process of looking for a job in the middle east - maybe Saudia Arabia, Kuwait or UAE. I was born in Germany, the son of two American citizens abroad. At birth I was a citizen but when I was 10 years old i got naturalized.
Do I need to dig out these papers if I am planning on going to the Middle East? I already have a passport. To be honest, I am not sure where they are  |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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To be honest, I don't know how you got "Naturalized"! Naturalization is for people who are foreign born to foreign born parantage. If, as you say, both of your parants were American...you were American at birth. You whole "situation" sounds fishy to me.
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haopengyou
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| As I understand it, at that time I had a choice of either German citizenship or U.S. citizenship. I think my parents chose to have me naturalized because we were living in Germany and they wanted to take away the choice. If I had waited until I was 18 I would have defaulted to the country where I was living. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| haopengyou wrote: |
Sorry poster, but my comments will be blunt and unblinking...
As I understand it, at that time I had a choice of either German citizenship or U.S. citizenship.
You didn't have a choice, you were a baby/toddler! Besides, being American being born to Americans isn't a choice, it's a natural-born right. Even foreigners in the US at the time of birth bestow the right of American citizenship upon their newborns!
I think my parents chose to have me naturalized because we were living in Germany and they wanted to take away the choice.
Shame on them! Were they "hippies/bohemians" who had grievances against the American government? I left the US to pursue my "pursuit of happiness" outside the US nearly 20 years ago due to US government poilices and outlooks, yet when my boy was born in Japan, the first thing I did was to get his Consular Report of Birth Abroad, proving his inherent American citizenship.
If I had waited until I was 18 I would have defaulted to the country where I was living.
I don't know that much about German law or where you might have been living at age 18, but even Japanese law, which is probably one of the most highly regimented and restrictive says, my son "should" consider making a choice of citizenship at the age of majority, but it is his and ONLY his decision to be made.
Not an attack, but if you were me, I'd be shooting arrows at them with my eyes every time I laid eyes upon them. That being said, I still disbelieve that they would have been allowed to make such a short-sighted decision for you while you were still in diapers. I've never heard of such a story...
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Well, as far as I know, Germany does not allow for dual citizenship!
That's why, I think, the parents of the OP decided to choose the German citizenship over Uncle Sam one for different reasons .
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| Do I need to dig out these papers if I am planning on going to the Middle East? I already have a passport. |
If you have a valid passport, German or American, is more than enough to apply for jobs in the ME, birth certificates are not required by the majority of the employers in ME. |
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Sheikh N Bake
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Your passport is indeed sufficient proof of your citizenship. It's when you are bringing child dependents that you have to jump through bureaucratic hoops. |
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veiledsentiments
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Just this past year I heard of one employer in the UAE that required a birth certificate (for the teacher, no family involved) in the packet of certified papers to be provided. (along with educational documentation)
It was suggested that it was part of the new government required paperwork, but others weren't asked for it.
Never heard of it being requested in any other Gulf country.
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