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hubbardahead
Joined: 30 Jan 2009 Posts: 2 Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: Teaching as a Career? |
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| I'm interested in teaching english as a second language, but lately have began to think about long term, so i'm curious what some people think about just being a teacher or should i do it for awhile then go with my fallback plan? thanks |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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To make a career out of it, you'll eventually need upper-level qualifications, like a related MA. Otherwise, you'll have to be content as 'just' an entry-level teacher forever  |
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Salverston
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 9 Location: Guayaquil, Ecuador
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I followed that path, started as an ESL teacher in a language institute and ended up graduating to becoming a teacher in a secondary school. Pay is higher for sure. You don't really need an MA, although the very best schools want one. The biggest thing is most places want the teacher to have a BA plus a teaching license/certification, which does take additional schooling and lots of hoops, very difficult if you are overseas trying to get one. Much easier to go to some place like Texas where you can work as a teacher on a temp license for a year while you finish the certification requirements. |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching as a Career? |
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| hubbardahead wrote: |
| I'm interested in teaching english as a second language, but lately have began to think about long term, so i'm curious what some people think about just being a teacher or should i do it for awhile then go with my fallback plan? thanks |
Do you think you might want to teach English if or when you decide to return to your home country? If so, then you might want to look at pursuing a teaching license in your home country (which very likely would make you more marketable overseas as well). |
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jdl

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 632 Location: cyberspace
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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A teaching degree (B.Ed) from a North American University and a state/provincial teaching certificate is very marketable both abroad and at home.... Seems to identify the career teachers in many employers' minds. It is fast becoming recognized by employers that teaching is a learned skill and in itself represents a learnable skill and discpline content set. A search of ads reveals an increasing number of employers wanting the B.Ed. The ESL world coming of age and moving into maturity? It is coming to the point where not only must one speak English (a function of birth geography) to become employed in ESL but must also be a teacher (a function of training). The ESL 'cert' offered as the quick avenue into the job market may well remain a third world strategy. The 'certs' may result in a few good 'gigs' (such vocabulary) in exotic places; but a career???
If one wants flexibility, the teaching degree is a primary avenue. Many states and a few provinces still offer a post graduate certification year resulting in a B.A./B/Sc plus B/Ed. More common; however, is the required 4 to 5 year B.Ed program. Whatever the decision a substantial investment of time is required. |
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mlomker

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever the decision a substantial investment of time is required. |
Yes and for very little in return. I looked into a MAT program -- $20k+ and three years in additional to my current degrees (BS & MA in business). Upon graduation a teacher certified in ESL can look forward to only part-time/hourly employment for an appalling salary. Less money than I made in the I.T. field with no degree whatsoever! |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| jdl wrote: |
A teaching degree (B.Ed) from a North American University and a state/provincial teaching certificate is very marketable both abroad and at home.... Seems to identify the career teachers in many employers' minds. It is fast becoming recognized by employers that teaching is a learned skill and in itself represents a learnable skill and discpline content set. A search of ads reveals an increasing number of employers wanting the B.Ed. The ESL world coming of age and moving into maturity? It is coming to the point where not only must one speak English (a function of birth geography) to become employed in ESL but must also be a teacher (a function of training). The ESL 'cert' offered as the quick avenue into the job market may well remain a third world strategy. The 'certs' may result in a few good 'gigs' (such vocabulary) in exotic places; but a career???
If one wants flexibility, the teaching degree is a primary avenue. Many states and a few provinces still offer a post graduate certification year resulting in a B.A./B/Sc plus B/Ed. More common; however, is the required 4 to 5 year B.Ed program. Whatever the decision a substantial investment of time is required. |
I agree that that'd be ideal. BUt I got something out of this that I didn't bargain for, a husband. So for me to go to school here in Peru, it's five years, plus a thesis, or the US, can't afford it, is just out of the question.
Though I'm trying to do the best next thing, get an MA. I'd like to get a DELTA, but again, working on a Peruvian salary does't make it easy, nor does the fact that it's not in Peru.
I did however, get a cert of eligibility for ESL, P3, and Spanish in NJ, but in order to get a license, I'd need to go teach there, again, not practical for us. |
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Kaspar Hauser
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