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Tracer



Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Location: Warszawa, PL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Polish Beer Reply with quote

Was reading the vodka thread; since I don't drink much vodka, I thought I'd start this one . . . .

Over the years I've prided myself on my immunity to hangovers. I mostly attribute my near flawless record to moderation and the technique of drinking about 1.5 litres of water before bed. Anyway, to make a long story short, something has found it's way in through chinks in my alcohol armor that I didn't even know existed, and is delivering brutal hangovers with regularity and predictability . . .

That something . . . you guessed it, is cheap Polish beer.

Serving Size, about .5 litre or one large bottle:

Zywiec = guaranteed quiziness and mild nausea all day the next day.

Krolewski = guaranteed headache all day the next day.

Tyskie = guaranteed headache and quiziness all day the next day.

Honestly, after I drink any of these beers, I feel like I've been mildly poisoned and I wonder if the bartender was trying to kill me.

Now I realize the impulse is to denounce me as a lightweight or a weakling, but I don't have this problem with beer from any other country. I can drink German, Dutch, Italian, American, Belgian, whatever, without a problem, it's just the cheap Polish crap that kills me. Honestly, when I go out and the only options are the above, I say nie every time. The one exception is Tatra, which I seem to be able to drink without symptoms the next day.

Wondering what the other alcoholics have to say about this?
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dynow



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i strictly drink heineken in Poland, and several pubs carry it now.

i recently found a nice pub that serves Murphy's Irish Stout at 12zl. a pint, which i would gladly pay rather than drink the alternative......
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're pretty much spot on!

Zywiec is the swill of Satan himself.If I'm faced with the choice of Zywiec or mineral water,I choose mineral water without fail.

Tyskie is ok for a pint or two.

Any Polish beer under 3zl(store price) per pint,should be avoided.

Tatra Pils is not bad for a cheap beer.

It seems like Polish beer is overloaded with chemicals or something.

The stuff on tap in the pubs is usually awful and gives the effect of swallowing drain cleaner.

I also usually stick with Heineken even though it's made under license by Zywiec these days.

Polish beer isn't worth it for me.I'm tired of going out of an evening with the best of intentions,and spending the next day sprawled in the corner of my bunker with a raging headache from only 3-4 pints of beer the previous night.
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Sgt Bilko



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I mentioned on a different thread, Hevelius is/was a rare (round here) but very pleasant beer. At home, I've developed a taste for Dog in the Fog but I'm at an age where I tend to fall asleep before there's any chance of drinking enough for a headache.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Bilko wrote:
As I mentioned on a different thread, Hevelius is/was a rare (round here) but very pleasant beer.

It was a very pleasant beer. Then it was bought by the owners of EB Group and became slightly less pleasant. Then EB Group was bought by Grupa Zywiec and it became slightly better but impossible to buy outside the Gdansk region. Then it was killed by Grupa Zywiec because they thought that they had too many brands. B@astards!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first moved to Poland, any beer that was consumed was ferociously expelled out of my rear end the next day with horrifying consequences not only for the poor toilet and bog brush but the poor sod next door who had to listen to my regular and repeated violent bowel movements. From those early experiences and intolerably sore botty I learned two things:

1 Never drink draught beer in Polish pubs.
2 Polish beer dehydrates you much more than UK beers or so it seemed.

The two solutions were to buy bottled beer and secondly always take rehydration salts before going to bed and keep a packet or two handy for the next day as well. I've since learned to stomach draught beer, but I always drink rehydration salts after putting my liver to the test.

It wasn't because I had a weak stomach either. I'm half Polish and have holidayed on many occasions in Polish villages eating some very fresh produce - there was definately something in the beer that was upsetting me.

I try to get ales whenever I can. In the fridge right now I've got "hen's tooth", "bishop's finger" and "Suffolk strong ale". Outside of this, I've recently started trying the non pasteurised beer, the beer that has to be drunk within 20 days or so. I forget the brand names but it's mighty fine stuff with the only unfortunate feature being some atrocious bottom burps the next day.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those UK ales are pretty good.One of my personal favourites is Well's "Banana Bread Beer". I'd buy it more often, but it's not easy to find and costs about 10-11zl per bottle.
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Blasphemer



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From non pasteurized Polish beers

Zywe, Mazur Swierze, Ciechan Mocne, Noteckie, Dawne, Mazur

From Honey Ales:

Ciechan, Miodowe (Krajan)

I don't mind the occasional Tyskie or Lech from time to time.

There is a store right by me that sells a huge variety of Polish not really microbrewery selections but more of a regional selection that is not always available everywhere. For example, I had no problems finding Hevelius in the states, yet it is nearly impossible to find it here... good beer by the way. The store also carries a huge variety of other eastern block ales, pilsners, honey ales, darks, strongs etc... you get the point.

There are other great beers around, just need to look around.... sort of like when you come to the states and all you see wherever you go is Bud, Coors, Miller and other crap.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

There are other great beers around, just need to look around.... sort of like when you come to the states and all you see wherever you go is Bud, Coors, Miller and other crap.


excellent point. most American beer sucks, but, there are a handful of beers brewed in the states that still rank in my top 5.

i need to try some of these polish beers you listed.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blasphemer wrote:
For example, I had no problems finding Hevelius in the states, yet it is nearly impossible to find it here... good beer by the way.
Seeing how Hevelius has been out of production for the best part of three years, I somehow doubt that you found it recently without any problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry from NWE wrote:
Blasphemer wrote:
For example, I had no problems finding Hevelius in the states, yet it is nearly impossible to find it here... good beer by the way.
Seeing how Hevelius has been out of production for the best part of three years, I somehow doubt that you found it recently without any problems.



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Tracer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice indeed gentlemen. I've recently sampled Ciechan and I must say it was quite nice, indeed. I'll have to try some of the others.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracer wrote:
Very nice indeed gentlemen. I've recently sampled Ciechan and I must say it was quite nice, indeed. I'll have to try some of the others.

Don't miss Perla and Goolmann (both from the Lublin brewery). They're fairly large-scale production numbers but by far the best of that type.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry from NWE wrote:
Blasphemer wrote:
For example, I had no problems finding Hevelius in the states, yet it is nearly impossible to find it here... good beer by the way.
Seeing how Hevelius has been out of production for the best part of three years, I somehow doubt that you found it recently without any problems.


Sorry Harry, but this beer was available in the states. If you don't believe me that's fine, you can even read some beer reviews right here that only date back about a year or so...
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/672/6546/

I am aware of the fact that this beer was retired, yet you can still come across it over the pond.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blasphemer wrote:
Sorry Harry, but this beer was available in the states. If you don't believe me that's fine, you can even read some beer reviews right here that only date back about a year or so...
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/672/6546/

I am aware of the fact that this beer was retired, yet you can still come across it over the pond.

If you want to drink three-year-old beer, that's your problem. Production of Heleviusz Classic actually stopped at the end of 2005 and the announcement that it would no longer be made came in March of 2006. I know this because I covered the story for the newspaper I wrote for then. Here is a quote from one of the articles I wrote in March 2006 on the topic:
Quote:
I kept hearing a rumour that production will continue but distribution will be limited to the Gdansk region. Sadly there is no truth in that. Eliza Panek from Grupa Zywiec�s PR department said, �It�s just a rumour. People are getting confused with what used to be branded Heveliusz Kaper but now is called Kaper. We have stopped production of Heveliusz last year and have no plans to restart production.�
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