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Asda · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231

From what I have seen, both guys and gals can be called Noor. After all, it means light which has no gender connotations.

freesoul · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:54 am Post subject:

Just wondering if Carol Thatcher was axed by BBC over the 'golliwog' story, shouldn�t there be a forum rule banning racist remarks such as 'ragsheads'. I think we need to be reminded every now and then that through the same 'ragheads', we manage to pay our bills back home.

It really puzzles me to see a teacher who has been in the kingdom for ages and still is not even willing to accept- I am not saying embrace- the new culture with its badies and goodies.

Nashledanou · Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 64

Nashledanou · Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 64

cassava · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject:

Ok, so if people complain about a place, they are RACIST?

In the US, I have put up with generations of foreign students, going through culture shock, complaining that the US and everything in it was awful. Am I to assume that they also were RACIST?

Sorry, but I don't think so. Confused

cassava · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

If there is one thing living and working in the Middle East taught me, it is that Americans are no more (or less) racist than any other group of people. The first time I heard "raghead" was from a non-Gulf Arab. At least in the US, there is a recognition that racism exists and that it is wrong and that it should be stopped.

Having heard so much of the supposed equality of races being part of Islam, I was shocked to find the most blatant, outspoken, hateful racism being bandied about as relates to even their fellow Muslims. It is much worse than in the US and everyone in the Gulf sticks their head in the ever-present sand and pretends it doesn't exist.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... a rather famous Prophet suggested.

VS

johnslat · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject:

Dear cassava,
I'm confused. Are you saying that Nashledanou was "racist" for using the "R" word? By my reading, the poster was inveighing AGAINST people who use it.
Have I misconstrued your message?
Regards,
John

narmtal · Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 4

While all of you were gas-bagging, I did some research. Take a look at this website and draw your own conclusions:

http://matadmissions.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sit-interlink-fellowship-details/

Notice the seventh response down by a lady with an Arab name.

johnslat · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:14 am Post subject:

Dear narmtal,
Nice job of research. But I'm not sure just what conclusion I should come to except that it looks like the posting was a cut and paste job.
But there are so many possibilities opened up, I'm not sure which would be correct.
Regards,
John

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:05 am Post subject:

sheikh radlinrol · Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain

Asda · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231

People, I defy you to find me any country, region, province, city, district, neighbourhood, street, apartment block in the world where racism (or some other form of bigoted supremacy) does not exist!

Given that this can go right down to the tribal level (and even sub-divisions within these tribes!), you'll be hard-pressed to do so.

Now, if the debate is about open racism, then yes, some countries are better or worse than others. Also, about state-based racism, then once again, some of you have a point.

Case in point, Rwanda. The Tutsi and Hutus could not be told apart except for perhaps by name or where they lived.

I think Star Trek demonstrated this quite well (for the record, I am not a Trekkie - not that there's anything wrong with being one...whatever's your poison!) where some planet had two alien species with the same patterns on them. The difference being the one's pattern was the mirror image (reverse) of the other...