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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: From Guadalajara to Spain...? |   |  
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				| I've been considering taking a TEFL certificate in Guadalajara and then eventually moving on to Europe - either Italy or Spain.  The only problem is the course I have been considering is just a TEFL certificate, not a CELTA.  Would I have difficulty finding work in Spain with this qualification? 
 Thanks for your help!
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Quite a lot depends on where you're from.  If you are from the UK, a decent generic cert should be quite ok (100+ hours on site, with a teaching practicuum on real students is the basic).  CELTA is the name brand. 
 If you're from North America or other non-EU member country, no certification will help you get legal work in Spain.
 In the past, working under the table was common, but it's getting far more risky.
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		| TEFL 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks for your response. 
 I'm from the UK so I know that I won't have problems in terms of visa requirements.
 
 Does this mean that any intensive 4 week TEFL course should be sufficient, even if it does not carry the title of CELTA?
 
 Thanks again!
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes.  Ideally, take it in Spain. 
 There are lots of very good reasons to take a course in the country where you want to start working, if at all possible.
 
 Training in-country offers you a great chance to get your feet wet in the country/culture
 while you still have a support system � they usually arrange for your housing during the course, airport pickup, and local orientation.  Your practice teaching students will really be representative of those you�ll be working with when you start.  You can be sure that your certification will be recognized by local employers, and a training centre can give you invaluable contacts and advice regarding reputable local employers.
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		| jonniboy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Just to clarify: do you mean Guadalajara the Spanish city or Guadalajara the Mexican city? I presume the latter since you talk about moving from there to Spain. 
 If so I'd definitely find a location in Spain to do it in instead.
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That was my assumption as well...maybe a course is cheaper in Mexico, but add on travel costs and it still seems to make more sense to take it in Spain. |  | 
	
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