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raevon12
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Qatar
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: 120 hours of teaching versus 192 hours of work |
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Hello everyone,
Should this concern me as much as it does...? The 120 teaching hours per month (6 days per week) in my contract has now become 'work a minimum of 8 hours per day, 6 days a week), which is a total of 192 hours per month. At 192 hours a month my hourly wage is below $ 10.
I signed the contract requiring 120 hours of teaching per month at home. Responding to a question, the manager assured me that teachers are present only when they teach. Now I am presented with a contract pursuant to getting my visa stamp. It states that all teachers must work a minimum of 8 hours per day. No more reference to teaching hours. Just 'work'.
If I am teaching 5 hours a day, I don't want to spend an extra 3 hours hanging out at the office. I have a computer at home for lesson planning etc. And besides, I think where there is reference to a 'minimum', I automatically look out for a 'maximum', which is not there. This also worries me.
Any help???????? |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a classic "bait and switch" ploy used by the least desirable employers in the Gulf.
Whether or not they check to see if you are on the premises is debatable, but if this is what they do before you even start, I'd be wary of staying with it.
6 days per week? I don't know of any reputable place that has that kind of timetable - or perhaps I should say and of the better places. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Commonly in Gulf educational institutions, you are required to be on the premises for 7-8 hours every day - even if you only teach 1 or 2 hours that day - even the good employers. They don't seem to be able to comprehend the concept that people are mature or responsible and can actually do better work at home in a quiet environment versus the chaos of the average staff room.
BUT... 6 days a week??? 120 hours a month? 30 contact hours a week? And for this you are paid less than US$2000 a month? What kind of place is this?
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Smeagol
Joined: 22 Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Location: In transit
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
Are you sure you're in the right forum? Seriously, you have listed your location as Seoul. This is the Qatar forum. Are you having web browser problems, perhaps? |
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raevon12
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Qatar
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Seriously, I think I would have noticed if I was in the wrong forum, no? I'll get round to updating my details when I have a free moment, which is not likely to be soon.
Thanks helenl and VS for the comments. As it turns out 'internal arrangements' at the office mean I will never physically work and/or be present here for 192 hours without being paid for overtime work. I was overreacting. Nevertheless, this is an entry level position with long hours and a terrible salary. Not for the faint hearted. I have no previous Middle East experience and its a start. |
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wilberforce
Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 647
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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You've been had if you have this many hours. Normal contact teaching hours are between 12-24 hours depending where you work.
I've heard of ELS making teachers work 30 hours and some of the other language schools like Berlitz do the same thing (how you can get quality teaching when this happens is beyond me).
Don't take any job which has more than 24 teaching hours unless the rest are overtime pay. |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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With your qualifications this is a crap offer to put it bluntly.
The employer can promise you anything but once you're on the ground you have to toe the line whatever it may be to stay in the country.
Everybody has to start somewhere - but why start with an employer who is not honest from the get go? I've been here for nearly 10 years, this employer is garbage. |
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Smeagol
Joined: 22 Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Location: In transit
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jeez, I was just trying to make sure you hadn't made a mistake. I surely make enough of them. And the job may not be a mistake. The Gulf (my second posting in the area) is damn pleasant compared to most of the other places I've worked. A contract to get a piece of governmental paper means nothing. Are they treating you okay? Treat people well, and they'll treat you well, has generally been my experience everywhere in life. Give the students your best effort, and it's not unlikely you'll be appreciated and respected, and no one will take advantage of you (as it will be apparent you're not trying to take advantage of others). This is not the West, don't sweat it too much; it's not likely you need to.
Best wishes to you, and I hope you enjoy the Arab world as much as I have (for many years, off and on, not just in the Gulf). |
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raevon12
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Qatar
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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