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ms_casillas · Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 26

Ok

5,000 / Mo and 20 teaching hours per week. Is this normal?

Also, the contract states I also have the duty to teach teachers.
Should I insist this is in the contract indluded in the 20 hrs?

Is 20 hrs a bit much??

Thanks!!!!!

PS It's a public university

shenyanggerry · Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 619 Location: Canada

Sounds a little heavy. Where is it? I'd be sure to check if the teaching teachers is included. Personally, I believe that you can do more to help all students by improving the teachers skills/techniques.

donb2222 · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 134

Hours seem high, salary seems low.
If they require office hours, then maybe you can use the office hours
to teach the teachers.

Hansen · Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China

Get clarification. Questions now will usually be answered contrary to your interests later.

20h/5000, bad deal. 16h tops. Anything over that paid overtime.

Itsme · Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 624 Location: Houston, TX

hour as in hour or hour as in 45 min teaching period. They often neglect to state that...

All standard contracts usually come with the "you agree to teach blah blah in addition to blah blah" but I have never had them take me up on it......

bradley · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 235 Location: China

I have 14 hours in my contract and anything after that is OT. Maybe you can ask to talk to any current teachers there and see what they have to say about the working conditions there.

eddy-cool · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1008

Salary iswithin the norms, let's say, smack in the middle between the two extremes high and low, but the number of teaching hours is 25% higher than what most contractscall for.

Then again, you probably will end up teaching 14 or 16 periods a week, perhaps even fewer, and having to give extra classes once a week to their own staff.

You had better check how long your contract is valid and whether they pay you during mandatory holidays. Many tertiary employers hire you for ten months though you can spend the whole 12 months of the year on campus for free.

Other benefits you should look for include airfare and holiday travel allowance (negligible - ca. 2200 a year).

evaforsure · Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1217

brevel_monkey · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 9

englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

brevel_monkey, to be more accurate, 20 real hours per week is high, although 20 classes of 40 minutes each is managable. from my experience, it depends what/who you teach. kids classes require more prep work with regards to pics, etc..also, you need more stuff for lower levels of english so that you don't stand in front of them for nothing..you can't just talk with beginners.

5000 per month is not so bad in a public school such a a primary, or middle school. even unis around offer as much or even less. however, i don't think you are a uni teacher (sorry for assuming) since you are to teach teachers there.

once, i had a gig at a middle school and i was asked to teach teachers there. since i wasn't clear what they wanted, the first lesson i asked them. you should see their faces and the one minute of silence. when i gave them a few choices, they got interested in a few. although, their "teaching leader" who had a title of assistant director was present there too. she quickly denied anyone participating in voting what to do. and, the next lesson after that the dean showed up. I cancelled the class abruptly and never came back.

however, i had a good experience teaching teachers too. and yes the main part of my course was to show them the western approach to teaching english and administer exams. we kinda killed two birds with one stone. i really liked that class, since we could compare the different techiniques chinese use. i wouldn't mind taking such a class again.