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helenl



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sad fact is that the UAE government probably does want to retain good teachers, it's the individual employers behaving spitefully in hopes of scaring the rest into staying on at jobs they're not happy in.
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carlen



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zoot



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: 6 month ban Reply with quote

carlen, I think the eye scan is now the form of identification and that you had it done with your old passport really doesn't matter. What matters now is that you're being identified by your eye scan not your passport.

helen l, maybe you're right about the provider companies such as cfbt and projects like MAG, but if that's the case, then the UAE government needs to implement rules that protect the employees, and from what I've seen that isn't yet happening.

carlen said coming to the UAE to work isn't all bad, but when peoople uproot their families and move them halfway across the world to situations that are fearfully insecure, it's not the wisest thing to do given that the education opportunites are not the best either. Perhaps if you're single or a married couple, then the consequences aren't so bad and risks can be taken.

educators need far more protection than they're presently being offered in the UAE, that's a certainty.
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carlen



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zoot



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject: 6 month ban Reply with quote

carlen, I mean you're now being identified by your eye scan. The passport and either its recency or old age is irrelevant. I don't know this for certain of course, but I'm guessing based on the postings. What link could there be in your new passport to the old one?
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carlen



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tefllifer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Going back up the thread, I spotted that a letter of no objection is needed if you want to transfer to a new sponsor.

The fact is (as I see it) you DON'T. For a start, transferring sponsorship you would effectively become a local hire and could lose air tickets, baggage allowances etc. Just wait until you have the cancelled visa from your current employer and then begin processing for the new job - if that's possible. That way you shouldn't need the Letter of No Objection.
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Zoot



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: 6 month ban Reply with quote

tefllifer, the letter of no objection is needed whether you transfer between one employer and another or not - it's needed in the UAE. what happened in the past though meant the need for the letter left employees open to abuse by their employers as you can see from other threads on these forums. a visa cancellation is only part of the process of leaving one employer and moving on to another, there used to be a 6-month ban in place as well and that has been removed as a result of the need for more teachers in the UAE. i think the UAE is going to have to update its labour laws if it wants quality educators in the country. right now, there's too much emphasis on personality issues and not on actual education issues where management is incompetent.
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helenl



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And even if you do follow the correct procedures for resigning, and leaving the country - your employer can still put a ban on you (you may not even be aware of it) in which case the new employer will find out when they try to process your new visa.

Some schools just automatically put in for the ban in order to discourage employees from "jumping ship". Is it ethical? No. Does it happen. Yes.