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indisputable_top_cat



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:26 am    Post subject: HCT expected salary?? Reply with quote

What would be an expected salary at HCT for an MA + 10 years??

It's the last thing they ask for on the online application form.

I've got circa 5000 US in mind.
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uaeobserver



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's about 18,000 AED/month ---

It's not outrageously out-of-line.

Not sure they'll pay that much --- but with all of the salary adjustments they've announced in the past 3 years ---- maybe I'm wrong.
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D. Merit



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your salary would be 14 - 16 thousand, depending on various utterly unfathomable factors.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D. Merit wrote:
Your salary would be X-Y thousand, depending on various utterly unfathomable factors.

I have to say that this perfectly describes the majority of employers in the Middle East. Cool

OP - the number that you put on the application doesn't really matter. Do let us know if you manage to get an offer over 16,000. It will likely depend on that 10 years of experience - was it teaching Academic English? Reading/Writing? to Arabic speakers? If the answer is yes, your chances of pushing it higher improve. If it has been teaching conversation classes in Asia, not so much. Good Luck!

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indisputable_top_cat



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments - will keep you posted.

I've passed the initial screening!! By the way I'm thinking of Al-Ain.Any comments?
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The Abbott



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering
How long did it take between the initial screening process and the phone interview?
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helenl



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're thinking YOU will have a choice in where you will be placed in the HCT system - think again. They will TELL you where you will be placed. Unless you can come up with a valid reason AND they want YOU badly enough to acoomodate your request - you might as well forget it.

A valid reason might include school age children and there is no good school choices where you are supposed to be going.

Remember - THEY have to want you badly enough to accomodate location requests. Sorry, but that's the reality at HCT.
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indisputable_top_cat



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken, but actually I've got plenty of options so I can play hardball I guess. If they aren't flexible I'll go elsewhere - no need to take it with my quals & exp
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is that they may not need teachers at the Al-Ain branches and if they do, the management of these colleges choose from the available CVs. You actually have little or no input. Take care of 'threatening' to not accept too early in the process... if you get my drift. Let them make an offer first and then work on negotiating. Your CV may make you desirable, but perhaps not enough to let you choose...

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helenl



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also keep in mind, you're not "special" because you have an MA +10 years experience. In this market, you're the norm rather than the exception unless you've got something special to offer.

HCT touts itself as being la creme de la creme (they're not) but they do have enough applicants to be choosy.
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indisputable_top_cat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sound advice thanks - will keep it in mind
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homeless vet



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Abbott wrote:
Just wondering
How long did it take between the initial screening process and the phone interview?


It was about two weeks for us. We were interviewed and "passed" a few weeks ago, but haven't heard anything further.
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sundrieddate



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Salary Reply with quote

Have hear of three folks starting at over 18 000 AED a month with zero experience at the tertiary level, at the HCT. Other institutes have paid even more - but the other required experience.

The time it takes? There is no formula here, that is clear. From 2 weeks to 5 years, and I have heard cases on both ends here.

If you don't have an MA stay away.
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D. Merit



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indisputable_top_cat wrote:
Point taken, but actually I've got plenty of options so I can play hardball I guess. If they aren't flexible I'll go elsewhere - no need to take it with my quals & exp


Well I hope HCT will indeed break their pay structure for someone brimming with such self confidence.

Despite your pretty much 'as standard' qualifications and experience.

Let us know how you get on, eh? Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundrieddate - are these EFL teachers? I would have suspected this to happen more often with content teachers. If they are EFL teachers, what experience do they have? If you know, that is.
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