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[johnslat]

Dear matthew156,
Although you're already "committed, signed contract and all", I guess it couldn't hurt to see what they're offer is - but won't you feel lousy if it turns out to be a better one that the one you've already signed on for?
Regards,
John

[matthew156]

Dear johnslat,

Well maybe, but at least I'll be working with a team that are a majority in one nationality (Canadian).

Regards.

Matt

[johnslat]

Dear matthew156,
Really - well, I worked with colleagues from many different nations - Canada, USA, England, Ireland, Morocco, Tunisia - and i found that to be quite interesting. I mean, they all TALK so darn funny.
Regards,
John

[freesoul]

Dear John,

(Dear matthew156,
Really - well, I worked with colleagues from many different nations - Canada, USA, England, Ireland, Morocco, Tunisia - and i found that to be quite interesting. I mean, they all TALK so darn funny.
Regards,
John)

This is why the new director seems to be a bit keen on replacing the old veterans of Indians and Tunisian instructors at KAU-ELI by more 'native' speakers. This is what a friend of mine working there told me anyhow.

Well! they are planning to expand and expecting an increase in enrollment next year.

Just a final note, there is a big number of instructors there with ' darn funny' TALK who have been there for ages: YES! JOB SECURITY. SO it all sounds to me unfair to dump them just like that.

Cheers,
Free Soul

[scot47]

Mia
the comment about problems in new institutions can hardly be the case with KAAU. It was opened in the 1960's. (An over-rated decade - especially in KSA.)

[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

[johnslat]

Dear NCTBA,
Well, George W, Bush "graduated" from Yale, but despite that, most still consider it to be a pretty fair school.
"The dean looked over George's transcript and college boards and then suggested in a kindly way that he apply to some less competitive colleges in addition to Yale. So George applied to the University of Texas as his "safe school," but in the end Yale accepted him.

Yale, like Andover, gave a helping hand to alumni sons in the admission process�far more than now�and it seems unlikely that Bush would have been admitted into Yale otherwise. There were no class rankings at Andover, but George never made honor roll even one term, unlike 110 boys in his class. His SAT scores were 566 for the verbal part and 640 for math. Those were far below the median scores for students admitted to his class at Yale: 668 verbal and 718 math. As he graduated from Andover, George was not a finalist in voting for "most likely to succeed," "most respected," "politico," or any of the other main categories. But, in a reflection of his people skills, he did come in second for "big man on campus."

At Yale, George W. Bush distinguished himself primarily as a hard partier, and he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts during a football game at Princeton. Those episodes underscored Bush's approach to rebellion in the 1960s: At a time when university students denounced police as "pigs," Bush stood with the establishment (yet still got himself arrested for pranks). Pressed at Yale to take sides in the great battles then unfolding over politics, civil rights, drugs, and music, Bush mostly was a noncombatant in those great upheavals, but when forced to choose he ultimately retreated to the values and ideals established by his parents' generation. In short, while some students took to the barricades, Bush took to the bar."
Regards,
John

[007]

[johnslat]

Dear 007,
There's nothing in the Constitution that specifically bars someone from being president because he has a criminal record.
As a result, George W, Bush became the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
Yet another example of how we don't discriminate here in the good old USA.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushresume.htm

Regards,
John

[maybenot]

My post will be to re-emphasize what one of the colleagues has already said.
There are numerous reasons not to join King Abdulaziz University at this time. Here are some of them I found;
1. Mismanagement: it is you always to blame for everything,
2. Not qualified administrative people: you will get warning letters for not staying in your class with NO STUDENTS present.
3. You are not native; you will be treated badly,
4. You are native; you cannot criticize anything and anybody since you do not belong in here, do your jobs as told and leave at the end of your contract.
5. Daily absence sheets,
6. Daily PRESENCE sheets,
7. 6 work days; you are called in on Thursdays in addition to weekdays.
8. you will not be paid for your overtime. You do everything, and if you do not show up on Thursday (it is off officially) you will be issued a warning.
9. You are alone, no support by any means.
10. Pay rates will be totally different than what you are offered. It happened with many of the colleagues here. Between the wages you get and were told you would get will be as much as 4000 SAR.
11. No job security and constant surveillance: everybody is now paranoid, there are students monitoring teachers and presumably they are paid for that.
When you want to join KAU, just keep these in mind.

[mccainjohn96]

[007]

[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

Whilst teaching the military for the nigh-on many years that I did, we were always told that at least one of the students was charged with recording every suspicious thing uttered by the instructor. Personally, I thought it was just paranoia, but since I continiously heard "bitch" for "beach", "sl*t" for "slot", and "bad room" for "bedroom", I soon forgot about the warnings!

NCTBA

[Evan2009]

"10. Pay rates will be totally different than what you are offered. It happened with many of the colleagues here. Between the wages you get and were told you would get will be as much as 4000 SAR. "

If you have a signed contract, how can they not pay you the correct salary? Is this common in Saudi Arabia? Also why do they want you at work on Thursdays? What do you do? Are you expected to be there all day?

[nomi]

hi, i am in the same situation. kau people are saying that i am appointed but i have not been provided with any paper. i have not been selected for english lanhuage center but for the other department. any one has any information about the process of the appointment and salary and benefits? they are saying u will have to go to ur home land for the visa. should i leave just like that or are they going to provide me with any document??????? i am very confused.