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BobbyBan

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 201
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I am guessing that you won't need to bring HP sauce or Marmite/Vegemite if you are in the US but these are also going to be impossible to find. |
Hardly impossible if you're in near a good sized city. Go into an Kaldi Coffee shop and they're likely to have Vegemite or Marmite. It's an import shop in many shopping malls and even around some train stations. |
Well, as I said before, the OP is specifically talking about outside of the big cities and not including specialist shops.
As for Kaldi, I have never heard of this branch of coffee shop.
I'm guessing there aren't any in my neck of the woods. Is this only confined to the Kanto region?
http://www.kaldi.co.jp/english/index.html#/index/ |
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David W
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 457 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't bring codeine, it is illegal to bring it into Japan and you could have issues at customs if you try. |
I don't think customs are really interested in any codeine you might be bringing in as long as it's obviously for personal use. I've never had a problem, either bringing it in myself on returning to Japan or having it sent to me. A couple of times the care package has even been opened by customs. Whatever they're looking for it's not OTC medicines for personal use. Ymmv. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Aspara, 'mod cons' is not popular in N. America, though I have seen it before (never heard it used). I like some punk, but I wasn't listening to it in 1979..... I've never heard anyone (British, Kiwi, Aussie, etc..) use it, perhaps I hang out with an older crowd .
It just sounded more like a texting or net short hand. I suppose it would be similar to 'air con', but I would say that and 'AC' or much more commonly used than 'mod con'.
Back on track, some things here medicine wise are much weaker for the same brand or are missing some ingredients. I get pseudopheds and allergy medicine from my dad in the States, much cheaper for the former and the latter doesn't require a prescription. |
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Suwon23
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 50
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help, everybody! Let me clarify a couple of things:
1) Regarding "American" toothpaste: It's not that I'm a jingoistic, flag-waving, French-boycotting redneck. I suppose you could re-write that "any toothpaste that works." Korean toothpaste is worthless. It doesn't even have fluoride in it. So I'm asking if regular Japanese toothpaste is any good.
2) Same for deodorant. Totally unheard of in Korea, but from your descriptions, it sounds like it's fairly common in Japan (remember, I'm going to the middle of nowhere so specialty shops are not an option).
While we're on the subject, what about foods not indigenous to Japanese cuisine, specifically spices? I know I''ll be able to find wasabi, curry, shoyu, etc., but what about things like oregano, dill, or cayenne pepper? Will I have to travel to a big city to find them? |
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Canuck2112

Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 239
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Just my opinion...
1.) In general, Japanese toothpaste is not very good. You can buy aquafresh at any drug store, but aside from that you're stuck with Japanese brands. Most of them are without fluoride and don't taste like mint. Some I've tried are actually salty.
2.) Deodorant...widely available in Japan but usually weak, roll-on stuff. If you use a stick or gel deodorant you should bring some.
As for spices, you might have to go to a Yamaya to get them. Yamaya is a reasonably priced import store. In my experience even the smallest Japanese cities either have a Yamaya or are within reasonable driving distance of one. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Oregano and cayenne pepper plus a wide range of other common spices are available in my local supermarket- dill possible, but it's not something I look out for myself so I haven't noticed.
A lot of this depends where you will be- if you are going to anywhere within shooting distance of a reasonable sized city, you can find most things, as I said above. If you will be in an extremely rural part of Kochi or Yamagata prefectures or somewhere similar it's going to be a different story. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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oregano, cayenne pepper -- no problem anywhere
dill -- big problem; get it from home
Ask about other spices if you like. I cook a lot and am always on the lookout for things that I thought were common. You will be happy to know that most herbs and spices are sold in at least one brand name that is written in English or katakana, so you won't have problems reading it.
toothpaste here is not worthless! Not all has fluoride, but the types that do are common and easy to spot (look for the MSP in English or the large フ and small つ). Some people will complain about the taste, but from reports that I have read on several forums, those people are very picky. Besides, there is a wide range of toothpastes here, so bring a big tube from home and try out what you see here until you absolutely need it.
deodorant. Most common foreign brand (only one I've seen) is Ban, and yes, you will get complaints from many people. I use a Japanese brand, and it is only a deodorant, not an antiperspirant! Plus I use an unscented type because I find all the scented types are terribly strong scented and unappealing. Japanese do not use personal health care products that smell strongly, including perfume, so it amazes me that this stuff exists. I suggest getting what you need from home.
Canuck,
The OP has expressly stated they don't want to depend on import stores, so suggesting Yamaya is out of line here. Besides, I've never heard of it, so it's not everywhere. |
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Suwon23
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:59 am Post subject: |
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The spices seem like a suspiciously happy ending... In Korea, non-Korean spices are totally unknown. I had to take a two-hour train journey to an Indian grocery store in central Seoul for anything not part of the garlic-pepper-sesame-curry-soy pantheon. Are you really confident that non-Japanese spices are available in grocery stores, even in rural areas?
Other ones I like are paprika and cilantro. |
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BobbyBan

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 201
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Are you really confident that non-Japanese spices are available in grocery stores, even in rural areas?
Other ones I like are paprika and cilantro. |
I think it depends just how rural you are talking about. Nearly all major supermarkets have spices that are found in "Western" food. I had never heard of "cilantro" before but a trusty Google search says it is coriander, which I have in my kitchen along with paprika. Both were bought in a standard Japanese supermarket for a couple of hundred yen each (They are known as "papurika" and "koriandaa" in Japanese so they should be easy to ask for).
If you are going to a town with no supermarket and only a tiny family-run shop then you might find it more difficult. Is it possible to tell us roughly where you are going and what the population of the place is? |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Japanese people like Italian food, Chinese food, Mexican food, Indian food, Thai food, and so the usual spices are widely available here. You aren't coming to a province of Korea, this is a completely different country, so it's likely a lot of things will be different. |
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Khyron
Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| BobbyBan wrote: |
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| BobbyBan wrote: |
| I am guessing that you won't need to bring HP sauce or Marmite/Vegemite if you are in the US but these are also going to be impossible to find. |
Hardly impossible if you're in near a good sized city. Go into an Kaldi Coffee shop and they're likely to have Vegemite or Marmite. It's an import shop in many shopping malls and even around some train stations. |
Well, as I said before, the OP is specifically talking about outside of the big cities and not including specialist shops. |
Yes, and I addressed that. The OP, however, was not looking for Marmite or Vegemite. In fact, it was you who I was directly responding to.
As for Kaldi, I have never heard of this branch of coffee shop.
I've come across it in Fukuoka as well as all over Kanto. Other than that, I have no idea where else it is. So, they aren't impossible to find if you live in northern Kyushu or Kanto at least! |
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Khyron
Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| 2) Same for deodorant. Totally unheard of in Korea, but from your descriptions, it sounds like it's fairly common in Japan (remember, I'm going to the middle of nowhere so specialty shops are not an option). |
Deodorant is common, but not necessarily foreign brands. I'd bring a few sticks, just in case you don't like Japanese deodorant. The local stuff works just fine for me. Then again, I came straight to Japan from Korea so I could've been just a slight big jaded by Korean deodorant.
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While we're on the subject, what about foods not indigenous to Japanese cuisine, specifically spices? I know I''ll be able to find wasabi, curry, shoyu, etc., but what about things like oregano, dill, or cayenne pepper? Will I have to travel to a big city to find them? |
How small of place are you going to? I've never had trouble finding things like this is most grocery stores, but my food shopping experiences are limited to Fukuoka, Hiroshima, the Tokyo metro area and small towns within an hour or two from Tokyo. If you're out on the northern coast of Hokkaido, I have no idea what you'd find. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| Other ones I like are paprika and cilantro. |
I live in a country setting of 170,000 people. Very rural surroundings an hour or 2 from the nearest large city, depending on what you call large, on Hokkaido.
No problem buying coriander, oregano, paprika, parsley, black or white pepper, Crazy Mixed Salt, regular salt or sea salt, sweet basil, bay leaf (known here as laurel), cayenne pepper (whether in grain shaker form or as a dried whole pepper), turmeric, cumin, Italian seasoning, garam masala, curry powder, and quite a few more. Dill is something I really want, but it's hard to get.
Bear in mind that whatever you can't buy outright, you can either get shipped to you from home fairly easily, or you can buy from the Foreign Buyers' Club www.fbcusa.com or The Flying Pig http://www.theflyingpig.com/tfp/Shop.ASP . |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Just my opinion...
1.) In general, Japanese toothpaste is not very good. You can buy aquafresh at any drug store, but aside from that you're stuck with Japanese brands. Most of them are without fluoride and don't taste like mint. Some I've tried are actually salty.
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Nonononononononono......
Gaijin urban legend that Jpns toothpaste doesn't (usually or otherwise) have fluoride. The vast majority of them do have it. As for not tasting like mint... that's just like complaining that there are other flavours of ice cream besides vanilla!  |
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Canuck2112

Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 239
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Nonononononononono......
Gaijin urban legend that Jpns toothpaste doesn't (usually or otherwise) have fluoride. The vast majority of them do have it. As for not tasting like mint... that's just like complaining that there are other flavours of ice cream besides vanilla!  |
Fluoride is "fuso" in Japanese right? If so, a lot of toothpastes I saw in Daruma/Tomods etc boasted that they didn't contain it. This was 2 years ago, maybe things have changed?
As for the taste, to each their own but.....I personally prefer mint to something that tastes like pickle brine  |
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