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[LisaD]

Hi All,
My husband and I have worked in Chai-Yi for 2 years and will be returning in Summer. We are looking for jobs and a place to live. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks

[Aristotle]

This is an official SSETT work advisory for all foriegn nationals in the greater Chaiyi City and Chaiyi County areas.
The post about the death of Ms. Bretel, is not an isolated incident. It is the first such incident in several years to result in a death of a teacher. We feel that this represents a new danger for all foreigners regardless of nationality.
We strongly recommend all persons in the area of Chaiyi County, to use extreme caution and relocate to safer areas.
This danger specifically applies to non Asian females. There have been several unconfirmed reports of abductions and sexual assaults in the area prescribed.
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1039500887-24054.txt
[email protected]
Effective: December 22, 2002

[LisaD]

I was living in Taiwan when this happened and a good friend of mine found her. From my point of view it doesn't change a thing. Chai-Yi is a wonderful place to live and work. Of course everywhere you go in the world, you do find bad people and situations. My experiance of living in Chai-Yi for 2 years was incredible. I meet wonderful people both Taiwanese and Foreign. This is why I'm going back. I would like information on jobs and places to live in the summer. Thank you for your concern.

[surrealia]

I agree that Chiayi is a wonderful place to live and work. For more information about things to do in Chiayi take a look at:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/chiayiscene.htm

Also, here's a list of schools in Chiayi, although I think the page has not been updated in a while:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/schoochia.htm

[brian]

Thanks LisaD for putting this claim that Aristotle keeps making into perspective.

Aristotle, you keep posting this warning, and have latched on to the incident involving Ms Bretel. A number of people who were actually living in Chiayi at the time, some of whom personally knew Ms Bretel, have disagreed with your warning on the matter. Why not accept that these people probably know better than yourself, and put this one to bed, hey!

[killian]

a long time ago i was living in guangzhou. my school was putting me up in a hotel. after about sometime someone told me "hey, they caught the guangzhou hotel murders!" i was at a loss; what "hotel murders"? seems there was a gang operating. here was their M.O.: go into a westerner hotel. knock on the door, claiming to be room service. when the westerner opened the door, storm in, kill him and take his stuff.

i was completely clueless the whole time that a gang of killers was out there in my area killing people because they looked like me and lived where i lived. in retrospect, i wish someone would have pointed the fact out that i was in great peril. such was before the internet. happily today, things like this can gain greater dissemination than the newsmedia allows.

bad stuff does happen to good people. institutional knowledge is a great thing in an endeavour with crazy turnover. if alarmists tactics save but one more foreigner here from becoming an unsolved mystery...then so be it.

[brian]

[Aristotle]

If the wrongful death of an innocent teacher is not evidence enough then I don't think there is any way of convincing you of anything besides the fact that your employer is always right and any criticism of the goverment of the Republic of China is not factual.

http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Bretel.html

[brian]

The only things factual about the report that you have written on your website is that Ms Bretel was an Australian, that she lived in Chiayi and that she died in unfortunate circumstances. You yourself state in your own article that the nature of her death was surrounded by rumors. All you are doing is spreading the rumors. If you have anything factual then please state it. If all you are going to do is to continue to spread the rumors then please save yourself the time and trouble.

As I have said before, even if she was murdered as you suggest she was, how does that make a whole city and it's surrounding countryside a place to be avoided by all foreigners. Issue your advisory against Ms Bretel's ex-boyfriend if indeed he did what you claim that he did, but don't try and tar everyone in that area with the same brush. That is just irresponsible and surely counterproductive to your efforts to inform.

[Aristotle]

Her father is a police officer in Australia. Why don't you ask him what he thinks.
A.

[brian]