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Is a criminal record automatic denial in many countries?
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nassarm31



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Ever thought about expungement? Reply with quote

Ever try expungement.

Expungement doesn't erase the record, but you can honestly say I have never been convicted of a crime.

I had to go through a background check for my international job. I went in for a live scan. Got my letter through the department of justice and had it apostille. My friend had to do it as well. I think more teaching jobs are asking for it. You can either send in your documents or stop by their office to take care of everything.

http://apostillepros.com/

Good luck.
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fladude



Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Ever thought about expungement? Reply with quote

nassarm31 wrote:
Ever try expungement.


Expungement is a lot of work. I could do that most likely. But to be honest, I'd like to just know which countries wouldn't let me in due to a prior drinking underage charge. And I guess in a way I probably don't really want to work in those countries.

I totally believe that everyone should have a background check before they teach. I don't have a problem with doing it and I could totally understand someone turning me down if I had something serious on it. But underage drinking in 1991..... I mean I shouldn't have to expunge something like that.
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guangho



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem you face is that many immi agencies are staffed with individuals who have limited English skills and frankly, little interest in making distinctions. Sure, you can explain that you were young and dumb and shall sin no more. And sure too, you can talk about how minor these offenses were. The problem is, you'd have to get lucky to find someone who understands and cares.

The second problem is cash: countries that offer little by way of compensation (Angola, Cambodia, China in some ways, etc) won't care as much but if you're aiming for Japan, Korea, Saudi et al, you'll have issues.

I hear you about expungement being a lot of work but may be worthwhile: not just for this, but long term as well.

Since you say you passed the bar, I wonder: did you ever work as a lawyer? If so, you must have passed the character and fitness committee right? So maybe you can put that down instead of answering the Q directly.
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fladude



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guangho wrote:

Since you say you passed the bar, I wonder: did you ever work as a lawyer? If so, you must have passed the character and fitness committee right? So maybe you can put that down instead of answering the Q directly.


Of course I passed the bar and I'm an attorney right now. The bar didn't care about it........

As for the offense, it's impossible for me to commit it again, since I can't be underage again.

I get where you are coming from though. But I think it's a little ridiculous to expect people to have 0 criminal record, especially coming from the US where criminal convictions are handed out like speeding tickets. I dunno I think I'm just going to wing it. Getting it expunged would be a PITA.
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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was arrested for marijuana possesion when I was 16 and have never once admitted to this on a job application. I held a number of jobs in the Middle East and elsewhere and never had a problem.
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