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[kidkanada]

Can anyone tell me what they do with your degree? Are they checking to make sure it isnt fake and do they contact your school? Not that I would ever consider using a fake one. Im just curious of course. And what would they do if they busted you with a fake one? Also, Ive heard you may need to provide a transcript of your grades. Is that true?

[WorkingVaca]

I know several people teaching in Taiwan with forged degrees. Apparently, the Ministry of Education doesn't audit very well.

However, I believe the paperwork for work permits at English schools has recently been turned over to another government department (foreign affairs?? Somebody chime in). Perhaps this new department will be more thorough.

[brian]

The onus is on schools to verify that you have a degree, by declaring that they have viewed the original. They then take a copy of your degree and send these copies in with your application for a work permit. Retain your original as the school doesn't need to keep it.

It is no doubt true that there are people working here on fake degrees. It is equally true that the authorities treat such individuals very harshly when they are discovered working on fake documents. I recall not too long ago seeing a westerner from Europe working here with a fake degree. We all saw him on the nightly news being chased around by TV crews like a cockroach when the lights come on. The authorties handcuffed him and led him away. It is most likely that he was put in detention until he could be deported - but that is just a guess.

What I am getting at is that there is some tolerance here for teachers working illegally, and overstays, but there is next to no tolerance for fake documents. Be very wary if you are considering this option.

[jason_seeburn]

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[matchstick_man]

While the fake degree issue scares me. I worked my ass off for mine...well not really but it cost me although I'm sure there are teachers who don't have degrees who make good teachers. I would suggest you get a copy or more verified by the Taiwanese embassy in your country rather than carry the original. (Losing that would give me nightmares).; It may limit your job options but if you plan on doing further travelling while in Asia your original may not survive.

[Anitata]

I know that in Taipei city that department of education doesnt checked your degree its your school who has to check your degree and stamp the copy one as the proof of the real degree. Many of the teachers can get away with the copy or fake degree (especially the teachers from North America- USA or Canada) and they used to be especially strict on the South African teachers because the govenment people think there are many fake degrees out there...so the South African teachers need to have a degree and a certify copy from their police in South Africa....then as far as I know almost all the SA teachers now are holding the real degree and lots of northern Americans are holding the fake ones...but the people 'out there' in the department dont know...well, not sure about the other cities and the new department who is dealing with these procedures...But they seldom contact the schools you graduated from since most of the people who work in the government cannot speak English properly!!

[killian]

in five years in taiwan, i have never heard of a BA/BS holder being asked to provide an academic transcipt of his grades.

generally: let your school's business agent see your degree. he photocopies it. the original is returned to you. you are personally finished at his point. the school'll translate the degree, have the translation stamped by a notary public and send down the bureaucratic gullet.

[Aristotle]

Please do not submit a fake or forged degree for a work visa. It is one of the few laws that are enforced sporadically in most areas.
Simply tell your employer that it is in the mail and you will give them a copy when it arrives. Tell your employer that you do not want your taxes deducted and that you will pay them yourself.
Please contact me and I will assist you in getting a real, fully accredited degree. With one to two years work experience and letters of reference? it is possible for anyone to earn a non traditional degree that is accepted by the the government of the R.O.C. within one year. It can easily be done in Taiwan.
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Hope to hear from you soon.
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[brian]