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boardmanite



Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Looking for suggestions Reply with quote

Hello,
I'm currently teaching English at a private institute in South Korea and my second contract will be up in August, so I've been considering different options. I've got my sights set on one of the more secular countries in the Middle East, with Turkey at the top of my list. Over the past few weeks I've been sifting through information on this forum, checking out links and sending out a few emails. However, I'm still not sure what type of job would suit me best in Turkey. I'm hoping that someone can give me some suggestions. Here is a little background about myself:

American
24 years old
BS in Education
Licensed to teach in the US (K-12 Spanish)
2 years ESL experience in South Korea
Certificate in TESOL from a 40-hour course in Canada

Here is what I'm looking for in a job:

Students no younger than grade 3 (could be middle/high school or uni)
Students who are at least somewhat motivated to learn
Students at no less than an intermediate level of English (I don't want to teach "Hello, my name is _________."
Management pays each month (doesn't matter if it's on time)
Hours in the afternoons/evenings would be best, but I'm flexible
2 days off in a row (doesn't have to be weekends)
Salary that is enough to live on plus perhaps save a little each month
Classes that are my own (no co-teachers)
Curriculum and lesson plans provided by the school (curriculum development is not a hobby I like to do in my free time)

I've worked almost 2 years at a private English institute in South Korea that has an excellent reputation. I teach bright, motivated, well-traveled, wealthy, spoiled, stressed-out kids and I quite like it! The management treats us well as long as we play by their rules, which hasn't been an issue for me. I'd like to find a job with similar working conditions in Turkey, preferably in a larger city. What type of job am I qualified for that would also suit my preferences?

One further question: Would it benefit me to get a TEFL certificate before applying to schools in Turkey? I was looking into getting one this September. In that case I would start working hopefully in October.

Thanks to anyone who can give me some suggestions!

boardmanite
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ranter



Joined: 30 Mar 2009
Posts: 18
Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for suggestions Reply with quote

boardmanite wrote:
Would it benefit me to get a TEFL certificate before applying to schools in Turkey?


Yes, but only on a professional level. You'll find a job without qualifications.
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Shalana



Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Posts: 150
Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're looking to not do any lesson plans? Good luck with that. No problem for a school to provide you with text books though.
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boardmanite



Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shalana wrote:
So you're looking to not do any lesson plans? Good luck with that. No problem for a school to provide you with text books though.


Yeah I guess that sounded a bit lazy. Basically where I'm coming from is that when I did student teaching a few years ago in the states, my cooperating teacher had no text books, no plans, no worksheets, etc. I had to create everything from scratch every day for four levels of Spanish. And most of the time she didn't like them and I had to rewrite them. I spent upwards of 4 hours each day on lesson plans and I never want to repeat that experience.

My school now gives me books for each class and tells me how much material to cover each day. How I teach it is mostly up to me, as long as I follow their general methodology. So I spend a few hours each week preparing for class, instead of it consuming most of my free time. That's what I'm looking for in a job in Turkey...
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SAM31



Joined: 17 Apr 2009
Posts: 18
Location: ISTANBUL

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: You'll be lucky Reply with quote

Hi Boardmanite,
I can't think of any one job in Istanbul that you could get that would fulfill all or even many of those requirements I'm afraid...

Students no younger than grade 3 (could be middle/high school or uni) Highschool/ uni students unlikely to be motivated

Students who are at least somewhat motivated to learn These are mostly at language schools but they are frequently low level

Students at no less than an intermediate level of English (I don't want to teach "Hello, my name is _________." There are in general a lot of lower levels in Turkey

Management pays each month (doesn't matter if it's on time) Most respectable places do this

Hours in the afternoons/evenings would be best, but I'm flexible Again you might get this at a language school- Uni/ highschool will start early and you'd prob have an early start with some service bus

2 days off in a row (doesn't have to be weekends)
Some Language schools and of course unis/ hs

Salary that is enough to live on plus perhaps save a little each month
If you mean live on by yourself, you'd get this at a private school- any age but most private school students whether primary or hs or uni, have the attitude and behaviour of under-5s unfortunately

Classes that are my own (no co-teachers) You'd get this at some language schools

Curriculum and lesson plans provided by the school (curriculum development is not a hobby I like to do in my free time) Most places I know of here would suit what you said later: My school now gives me books for each class and tells me how much material to cover each day. How I teach it is mostly up to me, as long as I follow their general methodology. So I spend a few hours each week preparing for class, instead of it consuming most of my free time. That's what I'm looking for in a job in Turkey...

Apart from that, to be honest- no offense intended- you are kind of young, if you actually look that young it will be more difficult. If you get a more substantial TEFl qual like CELTA or the Trinity one, you'll have better options....

Hope that helps! Rolling Eyes
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Misstanbul



Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Posts: 27
Location: Istanbul, Turkey

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a nice long list of things to look for and, I would have to agree with SAM31, not so likely to find here in Turkey.

After about the third grade until high school, the motivation level is pretty low. When teaching at the high school level, the students really only care about passing their SAT-like exams, so the focus would be mostly on grammar and not speaking.

I do not know of any good schools that do not pay monthly and generally on time. If you choose an affordable area to live in, the money should be enough for what you are looking for.

The hours you are looking for are only to be found in language schools and universities. Language schools do not necessarily give 2 days off (esp. in a row), but you can always ask.

At private schools, most of the curriculum is provided for you, but you usually have lesson planning time built into your day as well. I have never had to work on planning after school hours.

I would strongly suggest getting a CTEFL. I got mine from Via Lingua/Kent English in Istanbul. If you want to get a work visa and be legal (not a requirement for most of the schools here Wink ), it is required by the government.

Good luck and hope it works out!
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boardmanite



Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misstanbul and SAM31,
Thank you both very much for the replies. They helped immensely. I was afraid that my job wish-list would be a bit unrealistic. If only I could transplant the one I have now into a different country!
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