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lpm782
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| You ascribe their problem to being overworked (which they choose of their own volition to be); wouldn't it be more likely that these chaps simply are not in the possession of an allrounded preparation for a life as a teacher among foreigners? |
Few that are in these positions have the training that would allow for the prep. and so they are hired for placement within an industry .. they have no ability based on education or experience....also this is the fringe of employment in China and even though many dont like to hear it.. the perception that many here are working in this industry cause they have had problems else where is a reality... |
There is a lot of the skid row of humanity working here.......but a lot of people who do this have also been downsized or had some other problems. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Nervous break down #4 |
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| Buck Lin wrote: |
| I watched and listened to another guy from Canada who was doing two jobs at once, beat his wife regularly. |
Grats on watching and listening to a guy beat his wife regularly. How very courageous of you... |
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Nervous break down #4 |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
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| I watched and listened to another guy from Canada who was doing two jobs at once, beat his wife regularly. |
Grats on watching and listening to a guy beat his wife regularly. How very courageous of you... |
Seconded. I was hoping I read that post wrongly but no clarification so far. Disgusting if someone actually just sat back and watched that happen. |
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joey2001
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| 50,000RMB was the laowai cost. A local brownsuit, for the same services, might have been charged ~5000. |
Possibly. But spending between one and two months in hospital, not to mention cost for medication, x-rays etc., can easily cost tens of thousand even for Chinese, and can ruin a family for life. From what I heard, that FT spent close to 2 months in hospital. I don't really think a Chinese patient would have paid much less. |
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| the perception that many here are working in this industry cause they have had problems else where is a reality... |
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| There is a lot of the skid row of humanity working here.......but a lot of people who do this have also been downsized or had some other problems |
LPM, I was indicating preception....
But I am far more interested in hearing what the guys would do...about domestic violence...as there seems to be a fare amount of disappointment in the observation of "wife beating" without an additional response. which quite frankly, I feel intervening in domestics is a sure way to end up in the hospital...
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. It is hard to know domestic abuse is happening without wanting to react, but we are living in a country where even the police seldom do anything about it. Even families don't want anyone to get involved. The concept that the government uses about foreigners not getting involved in domestic affairs crosses over to the family. Getting involved will only make you the bad guy. If you are friends with the person you could try talking to them when they are calm, but I doubt that would work well. |
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Hansen
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Joey, The post I responded to about the cost said nothing about his time in the hospital. While it is possible that there were legitimate expenses amounting to 50K, it is just as likely that there were tremendous efforts made to pad the bill. Of course, it has a lot to do with the hospital and the people involved. My guess is that the bill was settled for much less than 50K, if it was settled.
Why would a person need to stay 2 months in a hospital for a broken leg, or even a month? Possible, but unusual.
In this city, even the supposed best doctors do poor quality work, by Western standards. They charge big prices as well, considering my salary. Some are rip off artists, over prescribing and prescribing inappropriately. A significant number of these people go nuts when a foreigner crosses their path. They will resort to various chicaneries if they think they might profit. |
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joey2001
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Why would a person need to stay 2 months in a hospital for a broken leg, or even a month? Possible, but unusual. |
As I said, that guy had some major issues. He struggled with the doctors when they tried to treat him, preventing his leg from healing. And his fracture was pretty serious and complicated to begin with. Sure, under normal circumstances a broken leg won't keep you in the hospital for more than a week or two, and probably costs less than 10000. |
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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As usual, some members here are making some rather bold and unsubstantiated claims. They seem to assume that all doctors, all professions, and all business of any sort is corrupt as well as being biased against non-Chinese. And yet, they continue to live in this country - odd, isn't it ?
There are a multitude of reasons for someone to have such an extended hospital stay. So, unless you have some sort of medical degree, please stop assuming medical situations.
The so-called outrageous behavior exhibited in the hospital around the time of the fracture and initial treatment could have been caused by complications resulting from the fracture and treatment itself (low change but certainly possible).
The point is - stop bashing China so much. If you're so convinced of its corruption as a whole then leave. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| There is a difference between understanding reality and running from it. Also, most of us will stay here for the things we enjoy. These may include significant others, having more free time, interest in understanding how the culture works here, watching the change of social structure, and the list goes on. The point is most are not staying for the trust in medical treatment, law enforcement, or the legal system as a whole, so that is why many seem skeptical about many things. |
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