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adw
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 Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: Z visa : only be issued by Chinese embassy in home country ? |
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In the case that I get a letter of invitation, can a Z visa only be issued by a Chinese embassy or consulate of the country which has issued my passport, which is my home country ?
Or can other Chinese embassies or consulates abroad also do that job ? I am asking this because it would be very inconvenient to have to go back to my home country. |
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crunchyone
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west2east
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| I am British and arranged my visa from Bangkok. |
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eddy-cool
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Please, many of us have answered this question many times in the past, so take your time and make a small effort by going to threads with a similar topic.
Tip: Read the head of your invitation letter.
It normally states clearly where you must apply for your work visa! |
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adw
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I understand, but visa regulations can change. |
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suanlatudousi
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| They certainly haven't changed in the last week that this topic was discussed. Your best source is the embassy. |
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Teatime of Soul
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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In the middle of your invitation letter, they will write the country where you are supposed [actually, must] to process your visa.
The default entry is your home country unless you clearly specify, and your FAO clearly specifies otherwise.
If you ask for a country other than your home country, it may result is some questions being asked such as, "Why is he there?", "How long has he been there?", etc., from the local or provincial authorities before approving your letter of invitation.
It is doable, but you need to have a competent FAO ensuring it gets done right. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Make sure they know. MY FAO knew that I lived in Peru, haven't lived in the US for years, and still put US on my invitation letter, so now I have to go back or DHL my passport. |
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eik
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Make sure they know. MY FAO knew that I lived in Peru, haven't lived in the US for years, and still put US on my invitation letter, so now I have to go back or DHL my passport. |
Sorry, but what do you mean by "DHL my passport" ? What kind of procedure would that be, and would that be a legal one ? 
(I know what "DHL" is...) |
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| eik wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Make sure they know. MY FAO knew that I lived in Peru, haven't lived in the US for years, and still put US on my invitation letter, so now I have to go back or DHL my passport. |
Sorry, but what do you mean by "DHL my passport" ? What kind of procedure would that be, and would that be a legal one ?
(I know what "DHL" is...) |
This is a good question. A few scenarios come to mind:
1. Your passport has been "DHLed" to the US, you're still in Peru, an emergency happens and you need to get back home asap. You cant leave because you don't have a passport.
2. You return home to the US at some point, and the immigration officials see you were issued a Chinese visa from the Chinese embassy in the US, but there's no evidence you actually left Peru to get that visa.
3. You "DHL" your passport and it just gets lost.
There could be more things that crop up, but in this day and age, a lot of things can go wrong and (esp. with US officials these days) these things that can go wrong can lead to serious consequences. "DHLing" your passport may be legal, it may not be, but is it wise? |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| The Ever-changing Cleric wrote: |
| eik wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Make sure they know. MY FAO knew that I lived in Peru, haven't lived in the US for years, and still put US on my invitation letter, so now I have to go back or DHL my passport. |
Sorry, but what do you mean by "DHL my passport" ? What kind of procedure would that be, and would that be a legal one ? |
This is a good question. A few scenarios come to mind:
1. Your passport has been "DHLed" to the US, you're still in Peru, an emergency happens and you need to get back home asap. You cant leave because you don't have a passport.
2. You return home to the US at some point, and the immigration officials see you were issued a Chinese visa from the Chinese embassy in the US, but there's no evidence you actually left Peru to get that visa.
3. You "DHL" your passport and it just gets lost.
There could be more things that crop up, but in this day and age, a lot of things can go wrong and (esp. with US officials these days) these things that can go wrong can lead to serious consequences. "DHLing" your passport may be legal, it may not be, but is it wise? |
I know. BUt here's the thing, I don't need my passport to leave. Actually I CAN?T use my passport to leave. I became Peruvian, so I have to use my Peruvian passport to leave.
It IS legal. I'd send it to my mom, she'd send it to the embassy, don't have to go in person.
Yes, it could get lost. BUt I have an old passport and I could get a new one. In emergency cases, I could get one fast. It's worth a try, I mean, it's about 300 usd total compared to 1K usd, plus missing work, which is another 250 usd.
For the second thing, yes I guess the immigration officals could see that I was issued a visa while not in the US, but what could they do? I mean, really, is it necessary to be in country to get a visa? I hoenstly don't know the answer to that. BUt peopel here in Peru, when applying to go to OZ; NZ; or the UK, have to send their passports to NY and CHile.
Is it illegal to send a passport thorugh the mail? I wouldn't think so, since they sent me mine by mail, and when I apply visas in the US, I send them by mail. The second thing never occurred to me, buyt like I said, what could they do? And they really don't look too much at the other visas, just to see the countries, like Cuba, Libyra, Iraq, and I don't have those in my passport.
HOwever, hopefully I won't have to DHL it and the school will give me a NEW invite letter.
esides, even if I went to the US and got the visa, in person mind you. My husband can't because he has NO US visa, so he has to apply here, so they have to send another invite letter anyways. |
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Ariadne
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Nature Girl..
If you send the passport to your mom she will need to present it (along with the documents from the school and your application) and pick it up in person. She won't be able to send it to the embassy. Does she live near an embassy? If she will need to use a visa agency, why not cut out a few steps and do the whole process through an agency?
Just curious.
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| It IS legal. I'd send it to my mom, she'd send it to the embassy, don't have to go in person. |
When I came over .. you could in fact send it to the consulate...but after that the rules changed and it had to be hand carried.. not sure if that is the procedure now or not... the country where the z visa is issued can be changed (if you are persistent and lucky).. personally I would just try first in person at the consulate closest to you and then go one to more extreme means if needed...I have known of recipients who have applied in other than home countries when their paperwork stated their passport country...and some were issued the z without a question ..others were rejected.. as always the advice you seek can change from person to person and situation to situation... |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ariadne wrote: |
Nature Girl..
If you send the passport to your mom she will need to present it (along with the documents from the school and your application) and pick it up in person. She won't be able to send it to the embassy. Does she live near an embassy? If she will need to use a visa agency, why not cut out a few steps and do the whole process through an agency?
Just curious. |
Yep, about 45 minutes away. Still I don't think I can do it in the US, becuase my husband can't apply in the US, so I'm either going to have to get a new invitation letter, or a new offer. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| It IS legal. I'd send it to my mom, she'd send it to the embassy, don't have to go in person. |
When I came over .. you could in fact send it to the consulate...but after that the rules changed and it had to be hand carried.. not sure if that is the procedure now or not... the country where the z visa is issued can be changed (if you are persistent and lucky).. personally I would just try first in person at the consulate closest to you and then go one to more extreme means if needed...I have known of recipients who have applied in other than home countries when their paperwork stated their passport country...and some were issued the z without a question ..others were rejected.. as always the advice you seek can change from person to person and situation to situation... |
Thanks, Ill give it a try |
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