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johnslat · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject:

Dear Green Acres,

"Agnostics and atheists are not the same."

True - to be an atheist (or a non-theist) one must have as much "faith" as a believer, since the existence or non-existence of "God" is a matter that cannot be verified.
While all this theological speculation is interesting, the fact remains that leaving the space blank or putting in N/A is, in my opinion highly likely to cause problems for any potential employee.
As for the choice of "other", well, unless the form has been changed, I don't believe it is even offered.
Regards,
John

Cleopatra · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject:

007 · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject:

Cleopatra · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject:

By golly but the boy is talking sense!!!

007 · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject:

sheikh radlinrol · Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain

cassava · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175

Sheikh N Bake · Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours

Cleo, whenever 007 starts to make sense, there's a good chance he's been plagiarising again. I'm not saying he's done it this time, because I can only stand about two of his posts a month before my reading glasses fog up. I've certainly called him on it before, however...one time he "wrote" a post with four distinct one-sentence paragraphs, all of which had been lifted, and I copied and pasted the originals and his side by side, with the reference, and he came back and said "Oh, I didn't plagiarise; I wrote it all myself, and what is your definition of plagiarism, anyway?"

Right.

Cassava, as for putting down whatever religion on the forms so as not to get your CV rejected from the pile in the Middle East, well, goodness, (1) you either want to work in the ME or you don't. If you do, you know you have to put up with certain things; otherwise it's silly to fill out application forms in the first place, isn't it? If you feel strongly about the matter, then forget about the ME. (2) Personally, I don't give a &%#$ about organized religion, and the authorities don't care if I do either. "Christian" is simply a default descriptor you put down, a formality. Even in the Magic Kingdom, employers don't care about your religion, as long as you "don't ask and don't tell." You're hired to do a job. End of story.

007 · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject:

Sheikh N Bake · Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours

Essentially, that is what you did say, by claiming the "majority of my source of information was taken from different Arabic books and magazines." It was in fact all from a single source, almost word for word, with some minor movements of a clause here and a phrase there.

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject:

I have one question: Why does ANYBODY give this TROLL the time of day! I've learned MY lesson! This person is an interloper. S/he doesn't even teach languages! Any response to the bait given by this poster is the equivalent of SHADOW BOXING!!! Rolling Eyes

NCTBA

johnslat · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

Dear cassava,
Dear me, I think you would have been better off addressing your response to me rather than to the Queen of the Nile. I suspect that she will express her regal displeasure most forcefully (which may not matter to you one whit.)
You are an English teacher, correct? If so, then, of course, you know about tone in communications. If you cannot hear the pomposity in your reply (made to the accusation of your being "pompous")

"This response is, at best, illogical, convoluted nonsense. The notion that my stance smacks of pomposity is nothing more than claptrap. All that I have done is simply to point out the irrational approach of those who advocate telling lies on visa application forms. It is interesting that some people often do not want to discuss the facts based on logic, but are quick to start hurling invectives such as "pompous" and "holier-than-thou".

Furthermore, if religious hypocrites want to justify their lies by colour coding them--white lies, green lies, red lies, etc., that is their business. The point that I tried to make in my last post is that how people live their lives is their affair and it is not my role to judge them. If that is pomposity, so be it. At least I don't indulge in the kind of contorted, religious deceit that some people seem to view as sound reasoning."

then I can only assume you are tone deaf.

Regards,
John