|
Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Glenlivet
Joined: 21 Mar 2009
Posts: 179
Location: Poland
|
 Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: How much/little would you work for? |
 |
|
| I got a job email this week from Eslbase advertising a small school South of Gdansk. Remuneration - free flat + 1000PLN per month. They have to be joking, right?? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 1202
Location: Colorado, USA
|
| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Is that 1000 net or gross?
If it's net, I guess you could just manage to feed yourself on that in Gdansk. Maybe a night or two out per week. No savings.
Gdansk is not as expensive as some Polish cities. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Glenlivet
Joined: 21 Mar 2009
Posts: 179
Location: Poland
|
| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Master Shake wrote: |
Is that 1000 net or gross?
If it's net, I guess you could just manage to feed yourself on that in Gdansk. Maybe a night or two out per week. No savings.
Gdansk is not as expensive as some Polish cities. |
Net - I spend more than that on cigarettes and booze  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Posts: 1080
|
| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
kryzys! kryzys!
yeah, come on. considering you can rent a flat there for probably 1000 a month, that's a salary of 2000 net a month.
awful.
is it for like 10 lessons a week?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Glenlivet
Joined: 21 Mar 2009
Posts: 179
Location: Poland
|
| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| dynow wrote: |
kryzys! kryzys!
yeah, come on. considering you can rent a flat there for probably 1000 a month, that's a salary of 2000 net a month.
awful.
is it for like 10 lessons a week? |
Nie wiem.
Family Run School in Poland is looking for ESL teacher.We are located in a small town near Gdansk.
Free accommodation and local salary provided ( 1000 PLN a month after tax)
We tend to have small groups (from 2 to 8 students)
For more info send your resume and photo to... (deleted to protect the perp!). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
justflyingin
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
Posts: 100
|
| Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Maybe they don't really expect to get a native speaker. That is pretty terrible. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cezarek
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 149
|
| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| That's shocking. They wouldn't get a Polish teacher for that, never mind a Native. Perhaps there's a typing mistake in the advert - even weekly, it isn't a lot. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jack Walker
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Posts: 412
|
| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That has to be a cruel joke! 
You need to be pulling in at LEAST 4,000zl net per month to survive in this crazy country. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 1202
Location: Colorado, USA
|
| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jack Walker wrote: |
That has to be a cruel joke!
You need to be pulling in at LEAST 4,000zl net per month to survive in this crazy country. |
That's BS. You obviously have never lived in Gdansk.
Excluding the cost of a flat, an income of 1000zl/month net is basic survival. 2,000zl/month offers a better quality of life and 3,000zl has the potential to save some money.
I lived in Gdansk on about 1,400-1,800zl/month (net, after rent) and didn't have much trouble making ends meet.
Of course, I'm talking about a single guy/gal, not a family. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Posts: 1080
|
| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
how much does a decent apt. cost in Gdansk?
shake, with the arrangement you had, was your ZUS paid?
here in Wroclaw, having 2000zl. IN POCKET per month, after ZUS, taxes and rent, is livable, assuming you aren't running a car.
in the end, all these numbers are subject to the kind of person you are and what your expectations are when you come here. we all know what a week long vacation costs including flight, hotel, food, etc. We were just discussing what it costs Americans/Australians/New Zealanders/Canadians to fly home for vacation. Everyone's desires and plans and lifestyles are different.
me personally, i have to save nearly everything I make just to fly home once a year and have enough spending cash to enjoy myself while I'm there. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jack Walker
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Posts: 412
|
| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Master Shake wrote: |
| Jack Walker wrote: |
That has to be a cruel joke!
You need to be pulling in at LEAST 4,000zl net per month to survive in this crazy country. |
That's BS. You obviously have never lived in Gdansk.
Excluding the cost of a flat, an income of 1000zl/month net is basic survival. 2,000zl/month offers a better quality of life and 3,000zl has the potential to save some money.
I lived in Gdansk on about 1,400-1,800zl/month (net, after rent) and didn't have much trouble making ends meet.
Of course, I'm talking about a single guy/gal, not a family. |
You say you lived in Gdansk.I'm curious about when you lived there? I don't think it's as cheap as people make it out to be.Granted,I've never lived there, but it is a biggish city and there are no cheap cities in Poland.
Living off 1,500 zlots a month is doable for a single guy, but you wouldn't be able to do much on that I think.You may do ok month to month, but your savings would be minimal.Lots of zapienkanki and instant soups.
I spend 500-600zls a month to keep my small,20 year old car on the road.It's necessary as we live out in the sticks about 20kms from our places of employment.We simply couldn't justify moving into the city and paying 1,500z plus utilities,l for an ugly bunker well outside the center.
Also you called my BS on the 4,000zl number I quoted, but when you look at your comfort salary of 3,000 and minus 1,200-1,500zlots for your bunker and 500zlish for a car,you are already down past 2,500 zlots and haven't factored in edibles.4,000 after tax,before rent and bills is absolutely nothing special.You'll scrape by if you are married like myself. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 1202
Location: Colorado, USA
|
| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I lived in Gdansk from Dec '06 until Jan of '08. I lived in a few different flats, but always had a roommate (another English teacher) which was part of the reason I was able to make ends meet. My school (Bell) helped us find accommodation.
Even with the help, finding a flat was a problem as a couple landlords made us move out because they wanted to renovate and/or rent to an older Polish person long term.
I don't think you can touch a flat near the center for less than 1,000zl a month - and that place would be a dump. Things get decent at 12-14 hundred. Finding a cheap clean place is a bit of an insiders' game as you can get a cheaper rent if the landlord likes you, knows you wil be there awhile and not trash the place, etc.
I did eat a lot of Knorr soups while I was in Gdansk and learned to love potatoes, but I also ate out several times a week, usually in bistros or diners and didn't skimp on piwo (5-6zl a pint, most places). Played a lot of pool and poker as well.
I did fly home to Colorado for the summer, thanks to an end of contract bonus and resigned later that Fall with the same school. I took on a summer job in a spice factory in Colorado to help pay for the trip as well.
Coming home to the US was great...for about 5 days, and then I was longing to be back in the Land of the Po's again. A country where people in pubs are approachable, unclique-y and generally without agandas and every 3rd person is not a walking tub of lard.
Money's all relative, but I think my figures are reasonable. I am talking 1,000zl CASH IN HAND (after rent's paid, after taxes) per month as an absolute bare min. That's the facts, Jack. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004
Posts: 375
Location: Gdansk
|
| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We're talking Gdansk here. I live in a flat in Old Town just 5 minutes from my school (Bell) and more important, the same distance from Absinthe, my favorite bar. I share the flat which costs 1400 zl plus utilities. There's no ZUS at Bell, so after my monthly expenses I have enough money to live a good but not lavish lifestyle. That includes poker and a lot of piwo. And I have more than 1000 cash in hand after all expenses.
Since I live so close to school I don't have a car but there may be a motorcycle in my future for weekend excursions.
I love this city. If you haven't already done so, read the goodbye thread for all my reasons. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jack Walker
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Posts: 412
|
| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Master Shake wrote: |
I lived in Gdansk from Dec '06 until Jan of '08. I lived in a few different flats, but always had a roommate (another English teacher) which was part of the reason I was able to make ends meet. My school (Bell) helped us find accommodation.
Even with the help, finding a flat was a problem as a couple landlords made us move out because they wanted to renovate and/or rent to an older Polish person long term.
I don't think you can touch a flat near the center for less than 1,000zl a month - and that place would be a dump. Things get decent at 12-14 hundred. Finding a cheap clean place is a bit of an insiders' game as you can get a cheaper rent if the landlord likes you, knows you wil be there awhile and not trash the place, etc.
I did eat a lot of Knorr soups while I was in Gdansk and learned to love potatoes, but I also ate out several times a week, usually in bistros or diners and didn't skimp on piwo (5-6zl a pint, most places). Played a lot of pool and poker as well.
I did fly home to Colorado for the summer, thanks to an end of contract bonus and resigned later that Fall with the same school. I took on a summer job in a spice factory in Colorado to help pay for the trip as well.
Coming home to the US was great...for about 5 days, and then I was longing to be back in the Land of the Po's again. A country where people in pubs are approachable, unclique-y and generally without agandas and every 3rd person is not a walking tub of lard.
Money's all relative, but I think my figures are reasonable. I am talking 1,000zl CASH IN HAND (after rent's paid, after taxes) per month as an absolute bare min. That's the facts, Jack. |
Yeah,I guess your summer work in the U.S helped keep everything afloat so to speak.
The numbers I quoted don't invplve any extra sumer jobs but only life while in Poland.
Sharing a flat certainly cuts down on expenses, but not everyone wants to share. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Posts: 1080
|
| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
Yeah,I guess your summer work in the U.S helped keep everything afloat so to speak.
The numbers I quoted don't invplve any extra sumer jobs but only life while in Poland. |
Right.
shake's experience involved Knorr soups, lots of potatoes, and having to work in some factory in the states to make US dollars to float him while he was out there.
for me, when i go on vacation, i want to be on vacation, especially if my lifestyle when i'm not on vacation involves Knorr and a steady potato habit (although i do enjoy the occasional Knorr soup  ) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
