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sharpe88
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I am in Beijing, have good qualifications and find it very hard getting students to pay this.
Even if you do find a few students willing to pay this, it's hard living off that income.
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| 150 per hour with a minimum of 2 hours sounds about right. |
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randyj
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Location: Nanjing, Jiangsu, China
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| Standard contracts prohibit outside work. To obtain written permission to work outside would require someone to make a decision. The chance of this happening lies somewhere between zero and nil, because decision-making in China has 1) risk, and 2) no upside. Therefore, the rule is as follows. Transgress freely; if caught, admit guilt and beg forgiveness. |
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Itsme
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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Location: Houston, TX
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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well I was getting 120 in 2004 so I just pulled 150 out of a hat.
Yes you are right; it is difficult to live off of that but not impossible to get by on that for a while.
If steady money is what you are looking for there are dozens of places willing to pay you 95-100 to teach but as for privates, I would charge at least 120 with a minimum of 2 hours. It's just not worth traveling an hour to teach an hour. Students understand this.
I am also referring to serious students and not the ones who basically want a foreign "friend". The best students to teach are children, as it's the parents footing the bill. It's easier when you are able to separate money and teaching. |
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joey2001
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| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Itsme wrote: |
| 150 per hour with a minimum of 2 hours sounds about right. |
That would depend on location, student, type of class etc. Right now I teach one-on-one lessons (kids) and charge 170 and 200 Y per hour. Recently I had an adult student who payed 250 Y. Unless a student comes to my apartment, and only wants to practice conversation, I wouldn't even think about working for less than 150 Y now. |
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The Ever-changing Cleric
Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| suanlatudousi wrote: |
| It is illegal ... what else matters ? You'll break the law if you know you won't get punished ? Getting WRITTEN permission from your employer bypasses the law |
Not anymore it seems.
| randyj wrote: |
| Standard contracts prohibit outside work. |
They don't seem to prohibit it any longer.
I signed a new contract early last week and the new wording regarding private work outside the school is:
"In Principle, Party B is not encouraged to take any other part-time jobs unrelated to this position. But if part-time jobs are necessary, Party B should inform Party A of this and declare in writing that all activities related to the part-time job are Party B's responsibilities."
Anyone else notice the change? Or is my standard contract at my standard school not so standard after all? I find it hard to believe the place I work is the only place in China to make this change. |
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Sonnibarger
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: Wuhan
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 am Post subject: |
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the only thing that changed in my contract was the salary  |
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Sonnibarger wrote: |
| the only thing that changed in my contract was the salary |
Mine also went up, despite the global hard times. |
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Mikeylikesit114
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Me 3. Got a 20 percent raise |
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Raindrops
Joined: 18 May 2009
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Location: PRC
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| evaforsure wrote: |
| If true it would be a great resource.. thanks for bringing it to my attention.. could you provide a reference to the visa law that states that ..as up til now the goverment offices I have dealt with have come from the a place where they feels the law does not allow for addtional non goverment regulated work...the SAFEA contract does allows for additonal work...but SAFEA is not a branch of the Central Government. It isnt even a regulatory agency...rather it provides guidelines and no provence is obligated to follow then... |
http://www.safea.gov.cn/
Definitely a true gov body, Z work visa binds you to your sponsor, and doesn't allow any extra paid work, unless agreed by sponsor. |
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evaforsure
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| no it isn�t.. a regulatory agency is not the same as in the west....it has no real power and any disagreement between school and individual has to be decided by the courts.. not even the labour department can intervene... |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: Blabbing
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Most privates in Panjin are 100 RMB/hour. Just thought I'd throw this in for info's sake. |
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OuterBanks13
Joined: 18 May 2009
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| I was getting 120 yuan per hour at a university in Wuhan, and turned down many private lessons at 150 yuan. Lots of work if you're good, clean and professional. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| HOw did you advertise that you were a private teacher? newspaper? university? |
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evaforsure
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| cork boards around mills are good sources.. as is the community BBS...and the English lang. mags ... but the truth of the matter.. as a female ...you will likely get a load of priv. students walk ups ... I had a real estate woman who had heard of my job from her neighbors and ask me to tutor a child in math�s this summer ... when I refused sighting visa law, she calmly told me .. This is china ..Everyone breaks the rules... |
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foreignDevil
Joined: 23 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| HOw did you advertise that you were a private teacher? newspaper? university? |
Just my personal feeling and experience, but I would advise against advertising. For one thing, how many private students can you realistically take on during a week, to justify advertising your services to strangers? Two: you could end up dealing with all number of wackos, people hoping for "language exchanges", etc etc.
You are much better off just going by word of mouth. It may take a bit more time to build up a number of students, but it is worth it in the long run. |
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