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kojimoji



Joined: 15 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: The English Club? Reply with quote

Hey, I think I've posted this question before... but has anyone worked for The English Club before? They are a private language school in Saitama.

I was supposed to be there in March, but my date keeps getting postponed... here it is late April and now they're telling me to arrive at the end of May. I am currently not working another job, obviously, since I thought I'd be working for this company two months ago. And I kind of need to be on insurance.

So has anyone had this problem? From what I've heard from other people who have taught in Japan, this situation is unusual.

They are also telling me that the apartment situation is unclear; I may have to share a room with another teacher until they find housing for me. I don't want to be an obnoxious foreigner, but I feel like I'm getting the runaround! Should I be worried, or should I just fly out and hope that everything works out for the best? I mean, this is my life, and it's a job - I'm not a kid attending summer camp in Tokyo for a year and a half. I don't have a large savings account to spend while they string me along for nearly half a year.

Am I overreacting to this situation? Any info on this school? Maybe they are a great company and everything will be fine once I arrive... (if I arrive...?)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Laughing
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name doesn't ring a bell.

Have you filed paperwork for your visa yet? What's the word?

No, you are not overreacting. To delay you like that without (presumably) a good explanation is one thing, but to change housing options is another. What's in your contract?

I hope you have not put all your eggs in one basket. Tell them directly you will not stay with another teacher, and see what happens.
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Company Calls



Joined: 16 May 2009
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'm actually supposed to be working for them in the early fall. Has anything else developed? I couldn't really find much about them online, but I do have a friend from Tokyo who checked out the company's Web site and he said it looked pretty legitimate.

Any other information would be great, though! Especially from someone doing what I'm supposed to be doing in the near future!
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bornslippy1981



Joined: 02 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I interviewed with them a few years ago. I'm assuming you mean "English Club, Inc.?"

They were a legitimate company at the time. Not a bad place to start in Japan, but I had already been there a little over a year, so it wouldn't have been much different than the job I was in at Nova.

I don't remember, but I think they had issues that I had my own place to live. I was living in a guest house in Saitama, and they really were trying to push me to live in their place.

It's been a few years since I've left, so I don't know or remember much else about them.
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Company Calls



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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! It's good to hear of your experience. From what I understand, they like the new teacher to take over the old teacher's apartment because they are under the company's name.

bornslippy1981 wrote:
I interviewed with them a few years ago. I'm assuming you mean "English Club, Inc.?"

They were a legitimate company at the time. Not a bad place to start in Japan, but I had already been there a little over a year, so it wouldn't have been much different than the job I was in at Nova.

I don't remember, but I think they had issues that I had my own place to live. I was living in a guest house in Saitama, and they really were trying to push me to live in their place.

It's been a few years since I've left, so I don't know or remember much else about them.
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bearcat



Joined: 08 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Company Calls wrote:
Thanks! It's good to hear of your experience. From what I understand, they like the new teacher to take over the old teacher's apartment because they are under the company's name.


This also gives them more control over you. If you quit, you're not just out of an apartment but also a place to stay and since you're not named on the lease that makes it all that much easier for them to make you think they can make you move. Yes of course Im sure it being in the company's name deal makes it easy for them on other fronts but I'd advise making sure you know the condition of it prior to moving in too.

Also, if the apartment is very close or next to your place of work, you'll have other privacy issues. I've seen cases of this being abused.
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Company Calls



Joined: 16 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearcat wrote:
Company Calls wrote:
Thanks! It's good to hear of your experience. From what I understand, they like the new teacher to take over the old teacher's apartment because they are under the company's name.


This also gives them more control over you. If you quit, you're not just out of an apartment but also a place to stay and since you're not named on the lease that makes it all that much easier for them to make you think they can make you move. Yes of course Im sure it being in the company's name deal makes it easy for them on other fronts but I'd advise making sure you know the condition of it prior to moving in too.

Also, if the apartment is very close or next to your place of work, you'll have other privacy issues. I've seen cases of this being abused.


Thanks for the heads up! I have a friend who is from Tokyo, so hopefully if something goes awry, he won't be too far away for some help.
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearcat wrote:
Company Calls wrote:
Thanks! It's good to hear of your experience. From what I understand, they like the new teacher to take over the old teacher's apartment because they are under the company's name.


This also gives them more control over you. If you quit, you're not just out of an apartment but also a place to stay and since you're not named on the lease that makes it all that much easier for them to make you think they can make you move. Yes of course Im sure it being in the company's name deal makes it easy for them on other fronts but I'd advise making sure you know the condition of it prior to moving in too.

Also, if the apartment is very close or next to your place of work, you'll have other privacy issues. I've seen cases of this being abused.


Could they also be adament on the accomodation front because they might be making a little profit from having their teachers rent the place. If they are own the place, or are subletting then this could be a possibility...
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