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[Adrian Keefe]

This so called college posits itself as being part of Hubei Normal University. It isn't. It is a private and fraudulently run institution that uses 'foreign teachers' as a marketing ploy to get optimistic parents to enrol their under-educated kids in the hope the result will be a degree from an overseas university.
My wife and I were contacted by a woman who calls herself Kelly [Xu Yan] and acts as the friendly face of a Captain Queeg character who sits nehind a closed door with the word Principal on it. One lie after another. No promises were fulfilled after we travelled from Australia to Huangshi in Hubei Province. I was initially led to a dungeon in the sky and told it was my accommodation. I refused it. My dogs would not be comfortable there I told Kelly. I was then put in a motel with leaking toilet that was never fixed. After that we were put into a flat outside the campus. A tiny elephant lived above us. We could never sleep. The fridge, washing machine, kettle etc didn't work The bed was a strip of wood with a sheet over it. The TV didn't work. Flying ants filled the flat. Construction began at 3am outside the flat.
The majority of the students couldn't speak any English, yet we were expected to teach them business management and half the classroom time was devoted to diary writing. The students hadn't a clue and this so called college couldn't give a care.
I was told to tell the college when I thought it needed advice. I did. They listened with smiles. Nothing was done. I resigned, gave more than a month's notice and was summarily sacked with no pay.
I saw a law firm. This law firm called itself Humanism Lawyers. They were in league with the college. Nothing was done. All were corruptly involved with one another.
Wang Quan is the name of the Principal of this International College of Hubei Normal University. He is the Captain Queeg of Academics. He doesn't look you in the eye. He has his minions do his dirty work.
Avoid this place, and avoid these people.

[Raindrops]

Sorry to read that, and thank you for the info!

[englishgibson]

this is something i am so affraid of now. i'm about to accept a job at a private institution that does a smiliar kinda work. and, getting scr*wed with the whole family is probably more painful too. traveling and moving your staff to find such a place as the OP has discribed is really scarry.

i've noticed that 9 years ago chemployers weren't as sophisticated liers as they are today. and, they were easier on negotiating clauses in their chinglish contracts then too. today, i see all my obligations in front of me, but the employer's obligations get somewhat lost in between the lines of the contract. seeking lawyers with our work related issues is probably a mission impossible. i'd like to know how many of us have really got something out of the chinese laws. i mean what's the percentage of all these fine fts that've taken up successfully on their sh*te chemployers。。

irony of ironies when we come to help in this country and find ourselves in a "dungeon" or teaching todlers some high level language. i guess that business is done in quite a different way in china and from my observation a businessman doesn't have to necessarily know the ropes in his/her field.

cheers and beers to our 6th sense when searching for the job opportunities this country has to offer

[YAMARI]

Sorry to hear that. Most of us have been treated very well by Hubei Normal University over the years. I am confused as I never heard of this little school you were talking about? Was that the smaller campus where myself and my friends have worked over the years and been treated very well.

[Teatime of Soul]

Sorry to hear of your situation, but thanks for the amusing imagery, "A tiny elephant lived above us".

And what a picture, Captain Queeg rolling his steel balls, no doubt while striking out clauses in your contract muttering about missing strawberries.

Thanks, and best wishes.

[Hansen]

These type of scams are not uncommon. A legitimate university sells their name to some mobster like figures who then promise students a degree from the legitimate university, even though they attend the dodgy little one. Some people tried it in Henan and the students rioted when they found out that their diploma would reveal the "university" they actually attended was the dodgy one.

A few years ago a lawyer acquaintance told me his firm's first order of business, regarding a suit filed against a school by some students, was to find out who the true owners of the school were. He said that even in the case of supposed government schools, even with a long history, it may have all started as a scam decades ago. It might actually be a private school, operated for profit, under the govenment flag.

[TexasHighway]

Hansen said: