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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: Re: What about MA TESOL vs. Applied Linguistics? |
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| My goal is to land a university position, whether it be in the US/Canada, the Middle East, or in Korea or Japan. |
What kind of a university position? I can tell you that a DELTA wouldn't do you any good in the US. If you want to teach ESL, you would want a related MA. (but, making a living at it is not easy... pay is not grand and mostly adjunct) If you are thinking content courses, you need a PhD.
There is no standardized content to an MA in TESOL or an MA in TEFL or an MA in Applied Linguistics in the US system. Every course will be slightly different even if they have the same name... as are the requirements in order to be admitted. For instance, mine is an MA in TEFL and they required either a first degree in education (with student teaching) or verifiable teaching experience... which let in those who had been successfully teaching for many years without the credentials (or had a CELTA).
The question for you right now is whether you can get the employers in the Gulf to accept your current MA. If they won't, a DELTA won't get you into most Gulf universities.
VS (who knows nothing of Korea or Japan) |
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txmsk
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 58 Location: The World
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks VS!
Yes I have noticed that about MA programs in the US, and even the UK. They all have slight tweaks or twists to their own programs.
Some seem far more in depth, others seem to only scratch the surface. Some offer a practical component, others don't.
Right now, as I've mentioned elsewhere on this site, I'm looking into the SIT Graduate Institute in Vermont.
I spent several summers at Middlebury, I guess I just can't get enough of Vermont.
Mostly adjunct positions in the US? That's terrible. I wonder what prospects in Canada are like. Then again, they seem to have their own take on TESOL certifications, even having a national Canadian certification process. Of course you have to pay high fees just to be certified, especially if you are not from Canada. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say that from what I have heard and read about the SIT program lately, I am not impressed... at all. It seems to be stuck in its hippie/peace corp history and methodology (which the fact that only they stress it suggests they may be stuck in a time warp). Not really what you would want if your interest in moving into university level academic English.
You will find that working in ESL in any English speaking country is a field where about 5% of the teachers at university level get a contract with benefits and the other 95% are slave adjuncts. This is true in the US/UK/CA/OZ/NZ. (which is why you find so many of us overseas where the decent jobs are) In the US and probably the others, the only acceptable jobs in ESL are in K-12. Then you need a first degree in education and state certification. ESL is just an added credential.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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It's interesting that you should have that take of S.I.T., VS. I have worked with some rather good teachers that graduated from there. I've never inquired as to what they were always assuming it was the same thing that I was taught...communicative English. Interesting...
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