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[junan70]

Hiya

I've been offered the above, after 2 months if I pass the probation and $19 per hr O/T. That's 'gross' and paid in VND.

I've got CELTA, 2 yrs exp and PGCE one yrs experience.

I'm not in it for the money, I'd go elsewhere for that, but a) I don't want to be ripped off and b) While I'm not arsed about saving, I don't want to struggle either.

Appreciate people's thoughts.

Cheers

[London Bridge]

[mach114]

If you are working 20 hours a week at a language school that is roughly 20 dollars an hour, which is decent. If you were working at an international school you would make more money. But, for a language school that sounds decent. More details about your position would help. If your teaching IELTS or Business English you should make more. I think it might be better to come with a job in hand in times like these.

[junan70]

[inky]

That comes out to not quite $17/hr at 92 hours a month, but you get that after 2 months? With your experience, that should be a minimal starting rate, with a small raise after 6 months. What do you get for the first two months? Taxes will be withheld, and I would urge you to clarify the school's tax policy, just how much are they going to hold back every month? If you stay for the full contract, you will probably get some of that back, but you could lose it all if you leave early. The contract should state all this, the tax policy and the early departure penalty.

As for your original question, good or bad, I'd say mediocre and in need of further clarification.

[junan70]

$1485 for first 2 months and then goes up to $1560 if I pass 2 month's probation. Tax is 20% for non res and 10% for residents when earnings above a certain threshold (to be fair they've sent me quite a lot info)

Looking at it tho, there's 25% tax on anyone staying in Vietnam for 6 months or less (which I may well have to). School pays this excess for you, but if you leave before 6 months you're obliged to pay it back.

Understandable but yet another financial grey area.

I guess I could always try and negotiate for more, but bearing in mind I may have to leave within 6 months, I may be being a bit cheeky. Having said THAT, they'll be employing a mature and experienced EFL/primary school teacher....hmmm....

[BenE]

Yeah I've heard Apollo are recruiting at the moment for the summer.

The contract with Apollo is ok and is seen here as a benchmark contract to compare your own with. (When you don't work for them and compare it with others)

I hear that you still pay taxes with Apollo even though there has been mention of the government not taxing people at the moment.

If you chose to work with them I'm sure we'll meet at some point.

[Magic8ball]

[junan70]

[asia0708]

If you're not in it for the money do you really want fulltime??

Part time sometimes means higher pay.

If you are here already, you've missed out on your air fare here. So you should ask for that to be compensated into your pay instead.

I think with a PGCE you should be on a bit more.
And perhaps you should look into International Schools in Asia (who will want you full time - 1 year. There are always loads of ads in the TES in the UK. Not sure if theres an online version so you can check it out if you are in asia.

I suggest you keep looking or negotiate harder. There are people here with less qualifications on the same money (but sometimes the schools aren't that bothered about that - you need to find someone who is)

[Green Acres]

It's not enough, unfortunately. Are they paying for your work permit? Housing? Insurance? Pension?

25% tax, or even 20% across the board can be unjust too, especially if you make a certain minimum amount in a month (where the take may be 10%).
Often times, there is a bit of scam concerning the taxes.

Like another poster said, if you are not coming for the money, then its alright. You can always find a second job to supplement your income. You need about 2500US a month to save, I think, so that school's offer only gets you about 60% of the way.

[Magic8ball]

[junan70]

[junan70]

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