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RUSTY



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Ameson Nanjing Reply with quote

Any body have any information on this School, experiences especially recent ones.Thanks Razz
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jibbs



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP is old, but I'm curious about them too.
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angelfire



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Ameson Institute Reply with quote

I'm going to have an interview with them soon. Does anybody have any info? Thanks
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jibbs



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ameson is not really a school, but an organization, though they have some classes at their headquarters in Nanjing. They hire teachers for schools in various cities, so you might not have much say about which city you end up in.

http://ameson-global.org/ameson-news/6-ameson-news-blog/53-ameson-institutes-announce-their-teaching-positions-for-sept-2009
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platinum peyote



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Location: Nanjing, near the bus stop

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibbs wrote:
Ameson is not really a school, but an organization, though they have some classes at their headquarters in Nanjing. They hire teachers for schools in various cities, so you might not have much say about which city you end up in.

http://ameson-global.org/ameson-news/6-ameson-news-blog/53-ameson-institutes-announce-their-teaching-positions-for-sept-2009


An "organization"? Do they throw corpses in black garbage bags into the ChangJiang, or do you mean organization as in a place filled with recruiters?
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Totemic



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

platinum peyote wrote:
jibbs wrote:
Ameson is not really a school, but an organization, though they have some classes at their headquarters in Nanjing. They hire teachers for schools in various cities, so you might not have much say about which city you end up in.

http://ameson-global.org/ameson-news/6-ameson-news-blog/53-ameson-institutes-announce-their-teaching-positions-for-sept-2009


An "organization"? Do they throw corpses in black garbage bags into the ChangJiang, or do you mean organization as in a place filled with recruiters?


I work in the Ameson Nanjing office. There's only one recruiter (not me), who is tasked with finding teachers for Ameson-run courses for Ameson Nanjing, and affiliated schools in other areas (mainly in Jiangsu province).

All programs are coordinated from the Nanjing HQ, and all visas are issued from here as well. Essentially, you work for Ameson, but (in some cases) at another school.

Although I don't teach, I can tell you that most teachers are quite satisfied, and the retention rate is high (it's not official, but it looks like we'll retain 100% of our teachers � in all locations � for the upcoming semester.)

I've only been here for about 6 months. When I first came on, I was told all sorts of horror stories about disgruntled teachers pulling midnight runners in the past.

Since I've been here, the 'organization' has really tightened things up. Although the odd miscommuication/ nonsensical directive does pop up from time to time, things are (seem?) pretty stable now, and teachers are generally treated as professionals.

Hope this info helps! Very Happy
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Raindrops



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totemic wrote:

Nanjing, and affiliated schools in other areas (mainly in Jiangsu province).

........ but (in some cases) at another school.

......... (it's not official, but it looks like we'll retain 100% of our teachers � in all locations � for the upcoming semester.)

I've only been here for about 6 months. When I first came on, I was told all sorts of horror stories about disgruntled teachers pulling midnight runners in the past.

Since I've been here, the 'organization' has really tightened things up. Although the odd miscommuication/ nonsensical directive does pop up from time to time, things are (seem?) pretty stable now, and teachers are generally treated as professionals.


Scary!
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jibbs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

platinum peyote wrote:


An "organization"? Do they throw corpses in black garbage bags into the ChangJiang, or do you mean organization as in a place filled with recruiters?


Oh, I think you know the answer to that. You remember seeing those bags I helped carry, right?
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frank d



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, lordy, Ameson! Where to begin...?
They were the final employer I had before leaving China once and for all at the end of 2007 (having been there since 2003).

I was approached by them to develop a special English Literature course for a small group (10) of advanced students. Other types of humanties-related, college-prep courses were also discussed for possible development.

The woman running the school, Lica Zhang seemed quite personable during my interview and position negotation -- although the interview was actually conducted by a retired scholar who was helping Ameson (and Ms. Zhang) develop a new and special curriculum for Ameson.

I was to teach this first course at the Nanjing headquarters only (as the students were already there). They needed me to begin quickly, but I also needed materials specially selected for the course -- mostly western novels and short story anthologies.

"Just give us a list of what you need, and they'll be ordered right away." I provided the list (including URLs for each item and the vendor). I was unwilling to sign a contract until the course was properly put together, but agreed to step in and teach -- something -- in the interim.

Days and weeks began to go by, and no sign of the needed materials. Upon direct inquiry (to Lica Zhang), I learned they had never been ordered. They made all sorts of excuses but it was abundantly clear they had no intention of keeping their word about the course materials -- or anything else for that matter. Zhang claimed that she had nothing to do with my course, even though SHE was the one who personally promised to order/purchase the materials. Once she had me working, she washed her hands of any responsibility.

They were simply sticking a former university lecturer in the classroom, in order to calm down upset and disgruntled students and parents.

This might not seem so bad to many who read this, but really, how does one actually teach an English Literture course with NO English Literature?

I had spent lots of time and energy preparing a course syllabus, and the students were highly skilled and ready to take on challenging reading. They were cheated far more than I was.

After years of deceit from ESL employers in China, I'd finally had enough and walked. They weren't providing my housing, my visa, benefits, nothing -- only hourly pay for the course. Bye bye!

I was so happy that I had never signed a contract with them.

The other FTs I met there during my brief stint were quite unhappy as well.

I can only imagine what it must be like working at one of Ameson's remote locations. Eek!
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angelfire



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Ameson Reply with quote

I was suspicious of Ameson, but frank d's response solidified my decision - I'm going to give them a pass. My first interview with them was for "Science Coordinator". After this initial telephone interview (which went very well), they waited two weeks to contact me. After two weeks, they downgraded the position to "Biology Instructor". After three more weeks of waiting, the position was further downgraded to Chemistry Instructor". By this time, I was highly suspicious of them and they put someone on the phone that only asked chemistry questions. Well, another month passed and I thought they passed me over, but then I got an offer and contract on my e-mail saying that I passed their "screening" and offered me a position of "Biology Instructor" with half the salary they promised in the beginning.

I passed on this offer and never looked back. This strange behavior by Chinese employers is par for China. Good luck to anyone considering them. (by the way, this was for a teaching post outside of their main headquarters in Nanjing, some small town).
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