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Splitting Hairs



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: ADU Reply with quote

Peter Williams has put things into perspective. 120 teachers - does that make it the biggest single recruiter?

Peter, what qualities and qualifications do you look for in a teacher? Is an MA necessary to be a good teacher?

Can you join ADU (a tertiary college) without an MA?
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helenl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADU has had a very bad reputation and to date no one has provided us with more positive feedback to contradict the previous unfavourable postings.
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wordsmith



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read on this forum that things are better there now.
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helenl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but you also posted they're offering 5 week term jobs with no legal documentation - sorry, that speaks volumes to me about whether this leopard has or is in the process of changing its spots.

A five week period can be endured for almost anything - even ESL Laughing

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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things had pretty much nowhere to go but up there. Laughing They are very much an outlier as far as university employment... what with its odd contract structure (one year? open-ended? what does that mean? especially legally for the teacher...). No matter how roomy the villa, sharing flats is totally unacceptable to the vast majority of adult professionals.

No one has come on here bragging about how grand it is there... but it has been quite awhile since we had a flurry of angry teachers. So, if they are hiring people without MAs, it stands as a possible entry level... or likely only university that will hire you.

But, for people with MAs and good experience, this would still be a bottom tier tertiary position for the UAE.

VS
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Splitting Hairs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS
You've been out of work or out of here too long. One year contracts and then open ended is pretty standard. It just refers to a rolling contract - common in the Middle East. ADU has improved a lot. Just because you don't like sharing does not mean everyone else does not either - your opinion is far too biased and not helpful on a forum that is supposed to benefit new people looking for work here. It is now a very common practice to share if you are single and the UAE seems to be more interested in singles or small families these days.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Splitting Hairs,
Do you share? And if so, were you fortunate enough to get a roommate that you weren't occasionally tempted to smother in his/her sleep (or get one that wasn't tempted to do the same to you?)
Regards,
John
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PeterWilliams



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splitting Hairs, yes, I think at one time that DID make ADU one of the biggest employers of English teachers in the region, and, yes, that DID lead to some pretty inevitable and intraactable problems during the start up phase of the business.

The MA vs. other qualifications debate is an interesting one. My previous post was as manager for the British Council here in Abu Dhabi and we saw a pretty good mix of teachers, often moonlighting from ZU and HCT in the evenings. I spent plenty of time observing CELTA, DELTA and Masters certified teachers (since the BC is one of the few employers who employed all three). It would be difficult to say which group showed the most skill. The DELTA trained teachers were extremely efficient and technically skilled - clear staging, good pacing, plenty of variety, clear instructions and good anticipation of language errors. Masters trained teachers impressed me greatly in the staff room - their depth of understanding of the process of second language acquisition, their research interests and plans for further professional development pointed to a long term interest in teaching. In the classroom, it was sometimes a little more 50/50. CELTA trained teachers neatly divided between those who had long term career plans and were incredibly keen to develop (often recruited from abroad) and those who were a little less interested and hadn't kept up with development plans since their initial certification.

Personally, given the teaching context, I always tried recruit DELTA teachers and CELTA teachers with promise but I appreciate that the tertiary sector often requires a different skill set and approach. I have always, rather perversely, respected the fact that the fail rate on the DELTA (and before that, the DTEFLA) was outrageously high - I remember only 50% of candidates passed one year - and that teachers I met in the BC would often try to pass over the DELTA to go for the "easier" option of a Masters degree. A longer slog but a higher pass rate.

I guess I am still holding to that approach given the kinds of vocational English teaching we do in our section of ADU. To be honest, as VS has pointed out, older hands with plenty of years of tertiary experience and Masters degrees would be better off applying elsewhere OR applying for faculty positions with the excellent Foundation and other language support sections at ADU. The kind of Continuing Education work we do would not really suit tertiary trained teachers.

On another matter, VS, there really is nothing confusing about the contracts we offer. I think I was fairly clear about this in my previous post on the Ambermax thread and since I sign most of these contracts, I've got a pretty good idea of what they say! We offer unlimited contracts to our full time teachers. From time to time, we also employ people on very short term contracts on a temporary basis.

HelenL, appreciate your sincerity and strength of feeling.

Peter
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