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$1560 gross per month. Good or bad?
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junan70



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Acres wrote:
It's not enough, unfortunately. Are they paying for your work permit? Housing? Insurance? Pension?

25% tax, or even 20% across the board can be unjust too, especially if you make a certain minimum amount in a month (where the take may be 10%).
Often times, there is a bit of scam concerning the taxes.


Sorry, I forgot to mention. Apollo pay for all 'in-country' expenses in terms of work permit, contribution towards flight at the end of the contract. But that's it. Oh I think a $200 moving in allowance.

I might try and negotiate, but after several applications, this is the only 'offer' so far. (They're wanting to do a phone interview too) Confused
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BenE



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of people benefit a lot from working with Apollo and there are advantages and disadvantages with working with them. Some people will be critical of the place whilst others will support it. Make your own decision and maybe see you soon in Hanoi (If that's where you're going to be based)
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junan70



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I sent a few questions to the recruiter of this school. I was 'assured' that a salary of $1485 per month was fantastic (well they would wouldn't they?)

However, in the same email, one that asks me to complete a phone interview, I have now been quoted $1355 per month, not the $1485 in the first email. Oh and they got the hours wrong too, apparently it should be 260 hours per quarter and not the 240 initially stated in the first email.

What gives? Should I just roll my eyes and put my 'When in Asia' head on, or should I be looking elsewhere?? Like I said, not an awful lot of advertising going on 'out of country' at the moment. Confused

My instinct is to sack it, but then......when in Asia..

What do people think? Again, many thanks for some good, honest feedback.
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jayasia



Joined: 06 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RULE NUMBER ONE IN VIETNAM....always trust your instincts!!

RULE NUMBER TWO......don't blag online about the offer your school is offering you. for sure, someone in the office will be trying to identify who you are.
the fact that u have been misquoted on hours and prices, may be a ruse to find out who you are? which leads me on to .....

RULE NUMBER THREE.......be cautious, even paronoid and that will get u back onto rule #1



it's true that many people less qualified than u are getting paid more, me included.
all the schools are much of a muchness. you move thinking the grass is greener, but more often than not, it's the same of the sameness, and u just gotta keep urself sane, otherwise, u find urself going insane and end up working at the Shane school of English where all the lunitics work.

ave!
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jayasia



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and who gives a flying fig about me spelling man??

it's 2am in da morning and i 've been enjoying a walk with johnnie in the black morning suit!

hi ho silver!
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junan70



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayasia wrote:
RULE NUMBER ONE IN VIETNAM....always trust your instincts!!

RULE NUMBER TWO......don't blag online about the offer your school is offering you. for sure, someone in the office will be trying to identify who you are.
the fact that u have been misquoted on hours and prices, may be a ruse to find out who you are? which leads me on to .....

ave!


That had actually occurred to me. I just couldn't bring myself to believe it Confused I half expected a post on here by the actual school. Why on earth do language schools feel the need to 'test' people? Have they been ripped off so badly by teachers/backpackers??

I've taught in state schools in the UK and language schools overseas. I can't be arsed with the mind games. Then again, I guess if I'm heading to Asia I need to get my head around them soon!

I am seriously tempted to book a flight and take my chances on finding work when I get there.

Have fun with Johnnie Very Happy
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Green Acres



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

junan -- best to book a flight and head over with a few thou. There's always a job here, especially if you are qualified.
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surreycouple



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a PGCE apply for the international schools - BIS, RISS, ABC etc , i know people working here with only a year or 2 experience on $2600. Lots of people leaving this year too...

I only have a TESOL 8 mths experience and with working 15hrs a week teaching preschool+guaranteed privates get approx $2000 a month now.

Living is cheap here, we go out every night for dinner or get a takeaway, its cheaper than cooking - approx �6 for dinner delivered for 2. One or 2 nights out a week drinking and spend less than �30 between us.

The costs are rising but for those from the UK its still pretty cheap here. I have been away every other weekend for the last 2 months to beach resorts, each trip costing less than $50 travel and accomodation.

Book a flight theres plenty of work here.
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surreycouple



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a PGCE apply for the international schools - BIS, RISS, ABC etc , i know people working here with only a year or 2 experience on $2600. Lots of people leaving this year too...

I only have a TESOL 8 mths experience and with working 15hrs a week teaching preschool+guaranteed privates get approx $2000 a month now.

Living is cheap here, we go out every night for dinner or get a takeaway, its cheaper than cooking - approx �6 for dinner delivered for 2. One or 2 nights out a week drinking and spend less than �30 between us.

The costs are rising but for those from the UK its still pretty cheap here. I have been away every other weekend for the last 2 months to beach resorts, each trip costing less than $50 travel and accomodation.

Book a flight theres plenty of work here.
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owly jr



Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Acres wrote:

Like another poster said, if you are not coming for the money, then its alright. You can always find a second job to supplement your income. You need about 2500US a month to save, I think, so that school's offer only gets you about 60% of the way.


Jeez buddy - you must be living the high life. I beg to differ. I would say the salary the poster is talking about is pretty standard for HCMC and you can certainly save on that sort of salary - I'm on an ever so slightly higher salary teaching a 24 hour week and have saved about $10 000 gross in a year, and i've hardly even been trying!!!
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