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Where to find jobs, and What do you think we'd be best for?
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Demonicat



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Near Shida, Taipei

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Where to find jobs, and What do you think we'd be best for? Reply with quote

This type of thread gets posted a lot on here, but as people seem to have no problem answering it I figure why not put another up here.

I have two questions:

1. Where do you find out about openings in the ME? I use tefl.com and eslcafe, but I KNOW there has to be more job sites.

2. (The long one). Where would be the best place for me and my fiance to work based on our qualifications:

ME- American male, age 28. US Peace Corps training, TEFL Certificate, BA in Sociology. I have 3 years of K-12 education experience, 2 years of University experience, and 1 year of Military/government experience. I have taught in Mali (West Africa, China, Korea, Indonesia, and Mexico)

HER- American Female, 33. US Peace Corps training, MA in International relations. She has 2 years experience teaching; one year k-12, and one year government. She has taught in Mali and Korea.

Any other advice is well appreciated. If any of you have questions about the places I have worked, I would be happy to answer in kind.

-Demonicat
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding jobs, the main issue for both of you is the fact that you don't have relevant MAs. For sure, not all employers require them, but the better ones do, or will only waive the requirement for those with considerable third level teaching experience, preferably in the ME. Unfortunately, you don't have that either. You would probably find jobs in the Gulf region, but they would likely be of the dreaded language school variety. From just about every point of view, you'd be better off staying wherever it is you are now.

That said, it can't hurt to apply. Lots of places miscalculate their teacher requirements and end up getting desperate come August. Bear in mind, of course, that you will not be able to live, or even enter the country together in any part of the Gulf unless you are legally wed. So if one of you lands a job and the other doesn't, you will have to choose between getting married or spending most of the year apart.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same-same, U.A.E. If you had the DELTA, things would be different. One place your fiancee might find a home is United Arab Emirates University. Here's their website: http://www.uaeu.ac.ae/ Give them a cruise. Very Happy

NCTBA
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15yearsinQ8



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Location: kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you asked for comments - no offense, ok? - but you're typical of the young wanna be teachers who seemed to decide to be teachers after sowing their wild oats traveling/studying. (BTW, is Peace Corp 'training' meant to say you completed a 2 year tour? if so, doing what? teaching? - it's much stronger to say '2 year Peace Corp expereince teaching' or words to that effect)
what you need to do now to be taken seriously is get certifications, licenses, etc that get you into the league of professional career educators.
the more the merrier.
with your current cv, you'll cap out early in dead end low scale jobs in the ME
my 2 cents
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jdl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat,

Cheer up. It isn't all that bad. There are jobs to be had with reasonable pay. Your experience and education are acceptable...so don't give up. I would suggest Oman as a great place to work and live. It is peaceful and the lifestyle is what you make it. The pay is very comfortable given the cost of living. Depending on your lifestyle interests I can recommend locations for you if you are interested.

Although the Ministries in Oman(Ministry of Education, Ministry of Higher Education and Ministry of Manpower) seem to be always in an on again/off again hiring freeze they all do eventually hire. The colleges are busting at the seams and instructors are needed. Most colleges hire through contractors such as CECN, TATI, CFBT, BAHWAN Cybertech and a couple of others. You can google them for contact information or just check the postings here on Dave's. As an employer at one of the Colleges I would certainly look at you as a couple ( this is an advantage for many reasons)so don't be discouraged.

With your US connections and Peace Corps experience I would strongly recommend contacting Amideast...sorta the American equivalent of the British Council. They are 'up and coming'

Good luck and hang in.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As an employer at one of the Colleges I would certainly look at you as a couple ( this is an advantage for many reasons)


Sure - but remember that this 'couple' is unmarried and thus do not currently constitute a 'couple' in the eyes of any institution in the Gulf.
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jdl



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Times..they are a changing'...as is said in Oman, "This is Oman, we are free to do what we want...just don't make noise for anyone".

But you are correct, officially the 'couple' does not exist without the paperwork. The stability of mature committed couples in the work place seems to have an influence on the hiring practice. I suppose it is a practical matter.....turn an eye to the paperless stable committed relationship with the 'appearance of family' or turn an eye to the dorm style, apartment hopping, bar room patronizing '20 something singles lifestyle'. Very pragmatic.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose it is a practical matter.....turn an eye to the paperless stable committed relationship with the 'appearance of family'


Maybe - but the fact remains that they cannot get