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jdl



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expats of all nationalities are a funny lot! They move to a foreign land for money, adventure, change; but almost immediately set up a ghetto or join one already in place. While enjoying too much free time and searching for meaning in this 'home away from home' their world shrinks and balkanizes and soon they turn on each other with a vengeance of 'a jihad'.

Why is it that so few expats are integrated? Or try to integrate. Oh my God...sounds like a blog on a 'limit immigration' site.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear jdl,
Are you in - or have you been to - Saudi? The reason I ask is that you seem to think "integrating" into Saudi society wouldn't be too hard.
Well, it's not - it's totally impossible.
I never lived on a compound during all my time in the Kingdom, but in nineteen years, beyond attending a few engagement parties of Saudi colleagues and students, and a very few visits to the homes of Saudi colleagues, my "integration" into Saudi society was non-existent.
And I'm pretty sure that wasn't because I have halitosis or bad body odor, since I never knew ANY Westerner during all my time there who "integrated."
But, of course, Lawrence was before my time.
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John
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jdl



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the plights of immigrants are universal. Even Lawrence and Bethune were not immune to say nothing of Dick and Jane.
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12 Monkeys



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahrrrr, There be daggers here in these moors' eyes. As far as I can see the integration depends on your nationality and religion. If you are North American Christian then very unlikley, if you are N. A. Muslim kinda sorta unlikley. If you are East Asian Muslim then off the chart unlikely. If you are North African Muslim or somewhere from the Middle East somewhat unlikely. Did I miss anything here? Well I may have but you get the picture.

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12 Monkeys



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah. I almost forgot. Nice avatar NCTBA, a change from the old DUFF BEER one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 12 Monkeys,

"Did I miss anything here?"

My sole suggestion - the only qualifier before "unlikely" should be "highly" in every case.
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John
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rigel



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdl wrote:
Expats of all nationalities are a funny lot! They move to a foreign land for money, adventure, change; but almost immediately set up a ghetto or join one already in place. While enjoying too much free time and searching for meaning in this 'home away from home' their world shrinks and balkanizes and soon they turn on each other with a vengeance of 'a jihad'.

Why is it that so few expats are integrated? Or try to integrate. Oh my God...sounds like a blog on a 'limit immigration' site.


So true, JDL. Many set up a ghetto in place and in mind. The expat thing is a way overrated and even has a Lord of the Flies taste to it. It's little wonder every other year there seems to be a new "Khao San Road" pop up somewhere in the world. People soon get tired of the old one.

Here's a truly ludicrous idea, though: expats forming a teachers' union.

The key is to find a good place far away from white faces and learn how to cast off the yoke of conditioned thought.
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rigel



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:
is this any different than working in the trenches at a pig-farm sort of middle of the road cotton underwear HAKWON?


Well, E, I've worked at only one Hakwon, and at that one I toiled for only a short time, so I couldn't tell you about the trenches or stenches.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stenches: raw squid and/or octopus being GNAWED ON by little screaming brats aged 9-12 while said brats BREATHE into your face and touch your big Italian nose with WONDER and DELIGHT!;

Trenches: the place where you get blamed for the principal's errors in English, such as when she is teaching a student how to memorize a speech in English, and is saying to the student: "Listen and repeat: The azaleas are in full moon in the summer," and you jump in trying to do the right thing and correct her, saying: "No, that would be in full "BLOOM", not full "MOON" ", and she says in a cranky bitchy voice: "Why didn't you correct this part of the speech yesterday as you corrected it?", MOD edit
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like ANOTHER bad Korean reaction...they're so rare...oh, so rare! Ever wonder why there's a separate Korean Board apart from the Asian Boards! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Funny that it was a Korean grocer that sent Michael Douglas' character over the edge in the movie, "Falling Down"! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Cool

NCTBA
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