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Maktsu



Joined: 03 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: What is working for Westgate like? Reply with quote

I applied for a job with Westgate Corporation. It seems like an exciting opportunity. Has anyone worked for them? Willing to share some experiences, or give some advice?
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ilovefood



Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
Working for Westgate is great if you want a taste of Japan and don't want to worry about a thing. They secure your visa, find you an apartment (with necessities such as a washer, plates etc.), escort you to open a bank account, and get your alien registration card.

They do have stipulations in the contract that some people find hard to accept such as not socializing with your students outside of work hours, and not having visitors stay in your apartment.

Overall the experience has been enjoyable, and they have done absolutely everything they agreed to in the contract.

If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.
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CdnInKorea



Joined: 08 May 2008
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Location: The Land of the Morning Chaos (Korea)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovefood wrote:
Hey,
Working for Westgate is great if you want a taste of Japan and don't want to worry about a thing. They secure your visa, find you an apartment (with necessities such as a washer, plates etc.), escort you to open a bank account, and get your alien registration card.

They do have stipulations in the contract that some people find hard to accept such as not socializing with your students outside of work hours, and not having visitors stay in your apartment.

Overall the experience has been enjoyable, and they have done absolutely everything they agreed to in the contract.

If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.

That seems like a strange clause in a contract. Why aren't you allowed to bring people to your apartment?
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ilovefood



Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't allowed overnight visitors or social gatherings even during the day. I have no idea about the reasoning behind it. Perhaps they are trying to avoid people having parties that get out of hand.

Teachers still do it but it's risky.

I think with the high rent we pay it's quite unreasonable but I accepted the contract and now I'm living with the restriction.
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sugardaddy22



Joined: 14 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for Westgate about 10 years ago...surprised to see they're still in business.
Could you imagine the uproar if a US company told Japanese nationals working in..say..California...that they were forbidden to bring guests into their apartments...apartments that they pat a rather inflated rent on, btw?
How do they get away with it?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't enforce such a stupid clause. They would also be hard-pressed to prove it is something they are allowed to put in a contract.

Sweep the place for bugs and cameras and enjoy yourself.

For other posts on Westgate, use the search function.
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kteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey

The whole no guest clause is an easy thing to get around, just use your head.

It's an intense work week but stress free. Like the other guy said they take care of everything. the actual teaching is easy. They give you a daily goal and ideas to use in each stage of the lesson. Or you can be creative with it as long as you meet the lesson goal. The students are great. They have paid extra money to be there so generally they are good natured and want to just have fun and speak English. (at least mine are like this)

Your supervisors stay out of your hair and are not breathing down you neck like at other schools i have been at.

Your weekends are free to explore Tokyo. all in all i really enjoy it and am probably coming back in the fall.

good luck!
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passport220



Joined: 11 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kteacher wrote:
Hey

The whole no guest clause is an easy thing to get around, just use your head.

It's an intense work week but stress free. Like the other guy said they take care of everything. the actual teaching is easy. They give you a daily goal and ideas to use in each stage of the lesson. Or you can be creative with it as long as you meet the lesson goal. The students are great. They have paid extra money to be there so generally they are good natured and want to just have fun and speak English. (at least mine are like this)

Your supervisors stay out of your hair and are not breathing down you neck like at other schools i have been at.

Your weekends are free to explore Tokyo. all in all i really enjoy it and am probably coming back in the fall.

good luck!
I agree.

If you come to school every day on time, dressed professionally, prepared to teach an appropriate lesson, Westgate will leave you well alone and hold up their end of the contract in a fair and reasonable way.

The apartments supplied by Westgate for me (I am in my second contract) and for all the teachers I know are �regular� apartments. They are not owned by Westgate and there is no Westgate staff around. No one is checking on you in your apartment. Act responsible with no loud parties and no disruption to your neighbors and imho you can have all the guests you want.

If you have loud parties or the neighbors complain, Westgate does not have to argue with you about the details (�oh, but our party really was not that loud�). Westgate can just fall back on the contract clause and tell you to knock it off.
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the yellow brick road



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible to work for Westgate and then move to another business after your contract is up?

I currently work in Korea and the visa guidelines are very strict.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can work for anyone here, and as long as your visa is still valid, you can move on to another employer. Westgate is fairly unique in offering visa sponsorship for such short-term work. The trick would be in finding that next job while you are on such a short-term, long-hours job, especially if you have never been here before (and considering the shape the market is in right now-- flooded).

Japan is not like Korea. You can quit, get laid off or fired, and the visa is still yours until it expires.
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the yellow brick road



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, well I lived in Japan a year before and graduated from tokyo university of foreign studies. I am fairly fluent in Japanese and comfortable around tokyo.

I was hoping to work with westgate for a short term and find a better employment position (hopefully non English teaching, but English teaching is ok as well).

Do you have any advice for jobs out there in the tokyo area? Is westgate my best option for placement in tokyo? I hear it's not easy to be placed in tokyo. The short contract is also nice because I won't be tied down until the end of a year long contract like I would be in korea. I don't like to quit early or anything. I would rather complete the short contract and end on good terms.

Any advice or experiences with this?
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lavos



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Current employee Reply with quote

I currently work for the big W. I have one thing to say that has not been mentioned elsewhere: IT IS A GAMBLE. We are not talking about a little difference in positions between teachers or even a merit based treatment system, I am talking about a random roulette game from apartments to commutes to workload to pressure from staff. Some deals are really really nice, light work great students and a modern J-apartment with all the cool technological things that make us ooo and ahh and the bosses leave you alone; some blow. period. A few really suck, many are alright, and a few rock. i will put the bell curve into action here saying that about 15% of the positions are very desirable with all aspects juicy and heavenly, the chunk in the middle of about 75% are ok jobs with a few annoying setbacks (be it workload or commute or junk apartment) and the low 10% where the stars align against you would really suck. It isn't a fair company but, hey, neither is life, I say go for it.
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Writer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does Westgate have any nationality or age restrictions? I'm 3rd generation Japanese American, age 53, female. I'm asking because being Asian was NOT an advantage in Thailand - will that work against me in Japan? Plus, I heard that some schools prefer younger teachers.

Also, is being married (to a Caucasian) a problem? Will that create a problem as far as housing?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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passport220



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writer wrote:
Does Westgate have any nationality or age restrictions? I'm 3rd generation Japanese American, age 53, female. I'm asking because being Asian was NOT an advantage in Thailand - will that work against me in Japan? Plus, I heard that some schools prefer younger teachers.

Also, is being married (to a Caucasian) a problem? Will that create a problem as far as housing?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Nothing official, just what I can remember from viewing the most recent group of Westgate teachers at the orientation in May.

Most teachers were in their 20s or early 30s however, about 20% were 40+, I know some are in their 50s. Most are Caucasian however, there was one Afro-American teacher and one from the UK of south Asian heritage sitting near me in orientation. I don't recall any of east Asian decent at the orientation (there may have been plenty, but no reason for me to make a mental note of it).
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justaprofessional



Joined: 27 Nov 2008
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Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

passport220 wrote:
Writer wrote:
Does Westgate have any nationality or age restrictions? I'm 3rd generation Japanese American, age 53, female. I'm asking because being Asian was NOT an advantage in Thailand - will that work against me in Japan? Plus, I heard that some schools prefer younger teachers.

Also, is being married (to a Caucasian) a problem? Will that create a problem as far as housing?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Nothing official, just what I can remember from viewing the most recent group of Westgate teachers at the orientation in May.

Most teachers were in their 20s or early 30s however, about 20% were 40+, I know some are in their 50s. Most are Caucasian however, there was one Afro-American teacher and one from the UK of south Asian heritage sitting near me in orientation. I don't recall any of east Asian decent at the orientation (there may have been plenty, but no reason for me to make a mental note of it).

Oh can you give it a rest, please!

You are at the orientations...WHY?...because you are getting paid extra and are in management/recruiting!!

Nice to get all that extra salary for a few days of b.s.ing about DON'T BE LATE and DON'T DARE CONTACT YOUR STUDENTS ABOUT ANYTHING EVER.

You have Westgate teachers working like dogs, sleeping on trains, drying their socks on balconies because they cannot afford the $2 to use a dryer.....all the while acting like University Professors to trick the students.

You should be ASHAMED at your shilling.
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