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isabel
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| Asda wrote: |
| Back to the original topic of the post, not only would KAU not pay for kids' tuition, but they probably wouldn't even kick you up the backside for free!! :lol: |
Yeah, and you would have to pay for the kick in the ass before they would give you the coveted exit only visa. |
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metalval
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Another concern that I have is actually the contract. They can terminate "just like that" at any time.
8 TERMINATION AFTER PROBATIONARY PERIOD
8.1 The University and the employee can cancel or terminate the employment contract at any time by giving the other party written notice at least three months before the date of expiry.
8.2 If the party terminate the contract without giving notice stated in section (8-1) to the other party, such party must pay to the other party full salary as total compensation for the notice period or the balance of it.
8.3 The University may terminate the employment of the Employee at any time without prior notice and without compensation if the Employee's behaviour contravenes the provisions of Article 40 of the Labour Law
Is this a common practice for Gulf countries?
Also, I read about recless driving and how people got in very bad situations with Omani drivers.
Well, it make sound funny to you, but I am scared, really. I just don't want anything bad happen to me. I want to do everything right, not get into trouble. I haven't lived anywhere besides the US, so I'm really worried to have my reputation spoiled, since it's gonna be my first real job - I mean at the university level in Gulf. |
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trapezius
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That is standard language for all contracts in the Gulf.
As for driving in Oman, I have no idea, but if it is anything like the driving in Saudi Arabia, then yes, it is terrible. |
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isabel
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| trapezius wrote: |
That is standard language for all contracts in the Gulf.
As for driving in Oman, I have no idea, but if it is anything like the driving in Saudi Arabia, then yes, it is terrible. |
I found driving in Oman to be relatively okay compared to riding in Saudia (where I was not allowed to drive). I think there are two reasons. First, Omanis are just very laid back by comparison to Saudis. Also, the roads are not nearly as crowded. The main problem I saw with Omani drivers was tail-gating (driving too closely behind you. But I saw none of the agressive speeding and passing that I've seen in Saudia. |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| They can terminate "just like that" at any time. |
Not really - didn't you read what the contract said?
They have to give you 3 months' notice if they want to terminate your contract, except in the case of a major misdemeanor. If they do not give you the full 3 months, they have to compensate you in lieu. BTW, the same provisions apply to the employee. Sounds quite standard to me. |
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jdl
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Relax for heaven's sake, metalval, before you poison your adventure. If you are coming to Oman just 'act like your momma taught ya', be polite, listen more than you talk, think before you act and all will be just fine. Heck, sounds like living in Cincinnati...only better.
"Don't sweat the small stuff....and its all small stuff!" - Richard Carlson
Oh yeh, always leave the house with clean undies in case you have an accident and have to go to the hospital and put a few biasa in your shoe for an emergency phone call. Like I said , 'all your momma taught ya' or to put it another way, " All I really needed to know I learned in Kindergarten" - Robert Fulghum
Keep it simple. Enjoy! |
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nomi
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| i think in saudi there are no taxes and in other gulf countries there are. that is what makes saudi different. and it is not as expensive as dubai and other gulf countries. come on, take it light. if ur concerned about education non of the saudi universitues pay for education of ur child. i dont know about onther countries. but there are good school where u can send ur daughter. american and british schools are expensive but there are other average schools woth good education standards and british curriculum. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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i think in saudi there are no taxes and in other gulf countries there are. that is what makes saudi different.
You'd be wrong about that, Cowboy. What makes Saudi different is that it's run by a gang of thugs.
If I were you, I'd do a little more research on the region. None of the Gulf nations have an income tax. We're here to make money, not to further enrich the coffers of the ruling class.
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isabel
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| nomi wrote: |
| i think in saudi there are no taxes and in other gulf countries there are. that is what makes saudi different. and it is not as expensive as dubai and other gulf countries. come on, take it light. if ur concerned about education non of the saudi universitues pay for education of ur child. i dont know about onther countries. but there are good school where u can send ur daughter. american and british schools are expensive but there are other average schools woth good education standards and british curriculum. |
There are also no taxes in Oman, and I believe the rest of the Gulf, Burnei, and I think some other places as well. Most Saudi unis pay for children's education, up to 2 or 3 children per family.
Anyone coming to the Gulf as a first-timer would be nervous, but the OP is exhibiting a serious case of nerves. It doesn't take a seasoned adventurer to make it here, but it takes some independence, courage, patience and tolerance. If any of these are in short supply, you may wish to go to someplace easier for your first ESL gig.
(Nomi- Do you teach English?) |
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Cleopatra
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You'd be wrong about that, Cowboy. What makes Saudi different is that it's run by a gang of thugs.
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As opposed to the refined, cultivated torture princes of the neighbouring mini-Sheikhdoms? |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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Toucheʹ, Cleo, toucheʹ! 
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nomi
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well for ur kind information, dubai has many taxes. i have lived over there for 6 months and it did not work for me. as u said we are here for money than we should save as much as we can. and if half of it is spend on taxes than it is of no use, working so far from home.
thanks for the information that most saudi universities pay for 2 or 3 childrens education, because i did not know that. i am not nerveous at all. lets see what happens. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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well for ur kind information, dubai has many taxes. i have lived over there for 6 months and it did not work for me. as u said we are here for money than we should save as much as we can. and if half of it is spend on taxes than it is of no use, working so far from home.
You must have lived in Bizarroland Dubai. There are no taxes. It didn't work (out) for you cuz you weren't there Cuz!
If ANYBODY out there, except for in Bizarroland Dubai, has EVER paid taxes outside business zakat, PLEASE SPEAK UP!
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P.s.- With the bad spelling, capitalization, and syntax...are you c*u*c*d74 (the name has been changed to protect the goofy!) coming back to haunt me???  |
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veiledsentiments
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Well... there is no income tax or sales tax or VAT... perhaps there is a tax on hotel rooms for the tourists and such?
Don't be paranoid NCTBA... but presumably nomi isn't an English teacher.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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I can't hear you right now VS, the voices in my head are having a full-blown arguement whether or not Michael Jackson is deserving of the accolades that he is currently receiving. Hold...hold on a minute...they're consulting with Billie Jean...
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