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Umm 'Abdil-Wahhaab
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: Too old to get hired? |
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I have a relative interested in working in Saudi but he is 60 years old this year. Is there any possibility of getting hired? I believe he is over the legal age for getting hired in Saudi, but is this written in stone or up to the employer?
With his minimal qualifications he would like to work at a language center or the like, but does not want to work with kids.
Any information/advice? |
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freesoul
Joined: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 240 Location: Waiting for my next destination
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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It IS written on 'government' stones, but I guess it won't be hard to find a job in private centres. He just can't be that picky in choosing his employer. |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I have worked with many people over 60 in KSA, and some even north of 70. At one point, our compound looked more like a home for the aged, although the university has recently hired a few more youngsters to balance things out. I'd say your friend's chances are good. Tell him to forget about the UAE, though....the new laws about age there are very strict. |
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littleoldlady

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: |
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That's very encouraging. I think I shall leave KSA as my alternative to a nursing home for littleoldladies. We all need something to look forward to in our advancing years. |
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Marquess
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I suspect most of those old boys got the jobs when they were a bit younger and just stayed. Getting a new job when you are over 55 is tough. |
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esltech
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: Too old to get hired? |
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Marquess wrote: |
I suspect most of those old boys got the jobs when they were a bit younger and just stayed. Getting a new job when you are over 55 is tough. |
Marquess, can you recommend any successful strategies for those of us who are already over 55?
Thanks! |
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littleoldlady

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Face lift. Too expensive for me so I just iron mine weekly. Teeth are often the giveaway. Make sure they don't fall out when you smile... superglue works wonders. |
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esltech
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: Too old to get hired? |
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Thanks for your insights, LOL.
Are there any serious suggestions? |
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Citizenkane
Joined: 14 Jun 2009 Posts: 234 Location: Xanadu
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Are there any serious suggestions? |
Other than lie about your age (not really an option anyway as you have to submit your passport for visa processing) there's not much you can do. As I've said on other threads, the labour market seems to be tightening up in KSA so employers who might have taken on 'older' teachers may not do so no. All your relative can do is apply to various places and hope that he succeeds. I've no particular tips other than to repeat what others have said - he will have a better chance in a private rather than state run instittuion. |
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Marquess
Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 165
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly I think it means getting a job at a place that can bend the rules and the only reason they will do that is because they have trouble getting teachers. If they have trouble getting teachers it is for a reason and best avoided. |
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littleoldlady

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry esltech. I didn't mean to be facetious.
Seriously-- I have found that stressing the benefits of being experienced as a result , in terms of how much more in control I am of students, how more culturally aware I am as a result of travel, raising a family etc. That really does help. The ME values maturity - you just need to focus on that in your cv and interview. I think employers get concerned about health issues - if you are fit and healthy - stress that too. |
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scot47

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Those over 60 have little chance of getting hired. If you can get in before 60, you might get to stay.
Note that some employers measure in Hegira years. 60 lunar (ie Hegira) is 58 and a bit solar (ie Gregorian). |
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esltech
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: Too old to get hired? |
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Thanks for all the advice.
So one who is over 60 probably won't be considered for a worthwhile place, regardless of how healthy, energetic, and experienced?
No need to apologize, LOL; I appreciated the humor. :-) |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I would say that once you are 60, probably the only factor that would get you in would be if you had spent the last 30+ years teaching in exactly the same environment that you are applying for... in other words - in the Gulf teaching Arabic speakers.
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Stephen Jones
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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if you had spent the last 30+ years teaching in exactly the same environment that you are applying for... in other words - in the Gulf teaching Arabic speakers.
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Military institutions will take you over 60, but as VS says it is because they know you will fit in. |
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