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samch



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: newbie needing advice Reply with quote

I am currently in my 5th year of teaching and i have a Bed degree in teaching as well as an advanced Certificate in Learning difficulties. I am married with a one year old and my husband and i are really intersted in a change... we therefore have decided to go to China / taiwan for me to teach - he will study and look after the little one...
I know the school year is just about to start so we will probably be looking at 2010/ 2011 school year and i am intersted in what ever position i can get that offers me the most money as we would like to save as well as travel as much as possible.
Has anyone got any advice on what to look for? were to look? when is hiring season?
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Sugar Magnolia



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay home.

Yunqi
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The Ever-changing Cleric



Joined: 19 Feb 2009
Posts: 1523

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice, in two parts, is as follows:

1. disregard the previous post.
2. just look around this forum for a little while. You've got time to kill till next year so read as much as you can, and go back into the archives of this forum as well. tons of information there and any question you'll have will already be answered in there somewhere.
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samch



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ver negative sugar magnolia? reason being??
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Renegade_o_Funk



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 125

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SM said the same thing in another thread. I think SM is just bored & trolling, SM can't actually be trying to get banned b/c there are more productive ways to do that than merely saying "stay home" hey SM how about "staying off the net" Idea Laughing

As for the OP - You and your husband want to travel around China, correct ? You are probably not young thrill seekers wanting to party all night in Shanghai or Beijing , so those two city's are out.

The sichuan province is a very beautiful area, home of the Panda I believe. It has lots of natural attractions that the industrial city's of the East Coast lack. http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&q=sichuan+scenery&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

As for the hiring season - the hiring season is right now, that is for September 1st 2009. Hiring season for next summer will be in may/june, and hiring for next fall will begin around January, and start to heat up all winter & summer right up to a couple days past the time school starts as Chinese employers scramble to get FT's.
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Sugar Magnolia



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not trolling, this is the truth - why on Earth someone would teach in BJ 2 years ago, return home, which is where I'm not, to work on their Masters and then "ink" a new contract in BJ for September is beyond my imagination.

Positive Thinking prevails.

I've been here for 5 years and know what I'm typing about. In the end, you'll all be better off staying home. I will eventually return there.

I certainly wouldn't return here after paying for a Masters degree. But, to each his/her own.

I guess "negativity" is in the mind of the reader - how "Stay Home" can be deemed negative is a good question.
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Sinobear



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're from S.A you may encounter difficulties getting a visa then FRP as many cities only can get the above for those from G.B, Canada, U.S.A, Aus/N.Z.



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The Ever-changing Cleric



Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinobear wrote:
If you're from S.A you may encounter difficulties getting a visa then FRP as many cities only can get the above for those from G.B, Canada, U.S.A, Aus/N.Z. Cheers

samch, there's another poster on here from SA, living&learning. You should contact him for info on the above.
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cblack76



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you do have quite a bit of time, I'd recommend preparing a resume now, sending it out to as many schools as possible, and seeing what types of offers you get.

Though you won't be accepting any of the positions, after awhile you'll have a good idea as to what to expect.

The "best" positions in China generally require experience and a degree. A TESOL may help, but with someone with your experience and credentials, you'd be better off taking the TESOL for the experience and education rather than the credential, though some places do pay extra (up to 500 RMB/month) for teachers with a TESOL. I've also heard that, though not enforced, it's a requirement for getting a visa.
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Renegade_o_Funk



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
This is not trolling, this is the truth - why on Earth someone would teach in BJ 2 years ago, return home, which is where I'm not, to work on their Masters and then "ink" a new contract in BJ for September is beyond my imagination.

Positive Thinking prevails.

I've been here for 5 years and know what I'm typing about. In the end, you'll all be better off staying home. I will eventually return there.

I certainly wouldn't return here after paying for a Masters degree. But, to each his/her own.

I guess "negativity" is in the mind of the reader - how "Stay Home" can be deemed negative is a good question.


It's interesting that you continue to stay when you just tell everyone to stay home. I suppose the negativity is in the eye of the reader, but when that's all you say twice when people are seeking helpful advice, could potentially be interrupted as trolling. I enjoyed my stay for the most part, I doubt I am the first person to enjoy China, or the last.

I received good grades as an undergrad & was offered a scholarship to pay for my graduate studies. I can understand your questioning the logic of someone who could potentially be 50k in debt from student loans, pursuing work in China. I'll admit, I do still owe a few thousand from when I was an undergrad, but the monthly payments are low enough to allow me to return without excessive financial burden.
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samch



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Location: Cape Town, South Africa

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUGAR MAGNOLIA - i think my description of myself was maybe miss guiding - i don't have my masters i just have a bed and a advanced certificate... no student loans as studying teaching in sa when i did was very affordable - so hubby and i are just 30 somethings wanting to experience life somewhere else...

Teachers get paid VERY little in SA - i am at a independent school therefore get the most i would be able to with my experience and from what i have seen in the forum - with my qualifications i should be able to earn a pretty good wage in china and taiwan???

here we can't save - especailly not on one persons salary - so we are willing to try - might be tough but anything new is tough??

willing to take on the challenge if the numeration is worth it?? anyone got an idea of the going rate for 2009/2010 year?
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Sugar Magnolia



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some people actually do spend too much time on the internet, I do wish both the Funky Renegade and Ms. SA my best.

Have fun and think positively!
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Hansen



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Location: central China

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I've been here for about six years. I have a hobby and working here allows me to enjoy it. Were it not for that hobby, and no other agenda, I doubt that I would still be here. Parts of China are still quite barbaric. Great deal of racism here against non Asian people.

Travelling is a nightmare. The noise, the crowds, the uncertainty...Not my game at all.

With three of you, if you get in a bad situation, it won't be easy to get out.

May I suggest that you consider Japan or possibly Taiwan. A place like Kyoto in Japan is an absolute paradise compared to the cities in China I've visited.

My view.
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samch



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taiwan is my other option - will keep looking into it - thanks
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living&learning



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Sinobear wrote:
If you're from S.A you may encounter difficulties getting a visa then FRP as many cities only can get the above for those from G.B, Canada, U.S.A, Aus/N.Z. Cheers

samch, there's another poster on here from SA, living&learning. You should contact him for info on the above.


Sinobear, what's the news on Saffers having problems getting a Z visa?

samch, I've done three years in Taiwan and three in Mama China and the pay in Taiwan is streets ahead - I saved substantially there.

The reason I'm coming back to China is to get the uni job on my CV (it's one of the best uni's in China), then I'm off again, unless I'm earning what I project I need to, by supplementing my salary with privately earned income.

ESL is a tiring game, that's what I've found after six years. It's a 'rat on the wheel' kinda job. And one you shouldn't be doing for too long.

That said, there are other opportunities in China, if you've got your feelers out..
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