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baloop82
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 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: Trouble finding a job |
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I'm a college grad and I have one year of experience teaching ESL in a foreign country. I'm looking for a full-time teaching position in Taipei and hoping to start in August or September.
I've sent my resume to a ton of different schools in Taipei and recruiters as well for the past 3 weeks and have not heard back a single response. Can anyone help me figure out what's up? I've looked at all the main websites like tealit.com and englishintaiwan.com and I keep applying to schools as new job offers come up but still no responses.
I'm open to looking for a job after I get to Taipei since I have relatives there but I'm worried that I'll have as bad luck as I do now.
Is the teacher market in Taiwan saturated or should I be doing something different?
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123Loto
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Trouble finding a job |
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| baloop82 wrote: |
I'm a college grad and I have one year of experience teaching ESL in a foreign country. I'm looking for a full-time teaching position in Taipei and hoping to start in August or September.
I've sent my resume to a ton of different schools in Taipei and recruiters as well for the past 3 weeks and have not heard back a single response. Can anyone help me figure out what's up? I've looked at all the main websites like tealit.com and englishintaiwan.com and I keep applying to schools as new job offers come up but still no responses.
I'm open to looking for a job after I get to Taipei since I have relatives there but I'm worried that I'll have as bad luck as I do now.
Is the teacher market in Taiwan saturated or should I be doing something different?
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Thats' wierd. There is a big bias against Asian looking English teachers in Taiwan but not so much that you wouldn't have heard back from anyone - especially since your written English is obviously fluent.
Have you checked your Spam filter (trash box, whatever) on your email account? Sometimes that can be an issue...
Btw, august is definitely the best month to find work - start of a new semester... |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems that most schools in Taiwan want to see you face to face. Only recruiters will consider people that are not already in Taiwan. |
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baloop82
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| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Should I just take a chance and go to Taiwan and hope beyond hope that I find something within the first couple of weeks? I can stay with relatives so I won't be in a desperate situation but I definitely don't want to go and wander aimlessly for an indefinite amount of time. I'm not too picky about jobs - am willing to work on Saturdays and for the lower end of pay but I'm hearing conflicting messages about the job opportunities there. Some say it's not too hard and others say that even really qualified people are jobless there.
I felt pretty worried when I applied to Hess out of desperation and got rejected outright.
Suggestions?
Thanks for any help! |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Should I just take a chance and go to Taiwan and hope beyond hope that I find something within the first couple of weeks? I can stay with relatives so I won't be in a desperate situation but I definitely don't want to go and wander aimlessly for an indefinite amount of time. I'm not too picky about jobs - am willing to work on Saturdays and for the lower end of pay but I'm hearing conflicting messages about the job opportunities there. Some say it's not too hard and others say that even really qualified people are jobless there.
I felt pretty worried when I applied to Hess out of desperation and got rejected outright.
Suggestions?
Thanks for any help! |
As far as I know there are jobs in Taiwan that go unfilled? They might not be great jobs but I think there are more jobs than teachers. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I've applied at ten places and only got one positive callback.
It was from a kindergarten that wanted me to work 10 hours a week, spread over five days, for less than NT$560 an hour.
I was desperate enough where I considered going in and doing the demo they requested, but then I found out it was 1.5 hours away. No way in hell I'm taking a two-hour-a-day job with a three-hour roundtrip commute... They claimed they could get me an ARC, but I think that's BS because I doubt immigration would grant an ARC for a job at a kindergarten, or with that few hours.
I need to get busier and hand out about 30 or 40 more resumes, though. Ten isn't that many. Still, if this were Korea, five of the places would have replied already...
I hope I can find a job before it comes down to having to return to Korea where a job is a sure thing... I REALLY don't like Korea, but at least its utter repulsiveness keeps out the competition... |
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JZer
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| They claimed they could get me an ARC, but I think that's BS because I doubt immigration would grant an ARC for a job at a kindergarten, or with that few hours. |
Of course then can get you an ARC. Stop trying to use western logic. This is Taiwan. |
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dangerousapple
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There are far more teachers in Kaohsiung than there are jobs right now. It's sad, but the job situation here is beginning to get as crappy as it is in Taipei. That's from a teacher's viewpoint. From an owner's viewpoint - great! Lots of applicants, and I can take my time to choose the best.
My advice, as a school owner - act professionally when you apply for a job. Send a real resume, with a cover letter. I will not hire anyone who thinks "hey dude, got any job openings?" is a proper greeting. I had more than 30 people apply for my last opening, and around ten of those applicants treated the process like they were meeting a buddy at the bar. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| They claimed they could get me an ARC, but I think that's BS because I doubt immigration would grant an ARC for a job at a kindergarten, or with that few hours. |
Of course then can get you an ARC. Stop trying to use western logic. This is Taiwan. |
So I guess I should just trust everyone then, and assume that if someone says they can get me an ARC, they can? Is that the logic that I _should_ use? |
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JZer
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Most likely if they say they can get you an ARC they can. Of course the ARC is an illegal ARC but working in a kindergarten is illegal either way. It is illegal no matter who gives you the ARC.
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Most likely if they say they can get you an ARC they can. Of course the ARC is an illegal ARC but working in a kindergarten is illegal either way. It is illegal no matte who gives you the ARC. |
Exactly. An illegal ARC.
I don't want an illegal ARC.
Make sense? |
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JZer
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Rooster_2006, I am not sure your point. If you work at a kindergarten it is illegal. It really does not matter where you get your ARC in that case. If a kindergarten sponsors your ARC they are definitely using another buxiban they own to get the ARC.
I really don't see the difference. If you don't want to work an illegal job that is one thing. Then just teach in buxibans. But to work about if you have a legal ARC or illegal ARC when you are working illegally seems a little odd. |
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SanChong
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Rooster_2006, I am not sure your point. If you work at a kindergarten it is illegal. It really does not matter where you get your ARC in that case. If a kindergarten sponsors your ARC they are definitely using another buxiban they own to get the ARC.
I really don't see the difference. If you don't want to work an illegal job that is one thing. Then just teach in buxibans. But to work about if you have a legal ARC or illegal ARC when you are working illegally seems a little odd. |
Agreed, there isn't much of a difference. However, there is ONE difference worth mentioning:
If you're working at a kindergarten it's better (ie, safer and closer to legal) if your ARC lists your place of employment as in THAT building. Some kindys will get your ARC through some random 3rd party school which has nothing to do with where you are actually working. If inspectors stop by that puts you at more of a risk. However, if the buxiban is registered in the SAME BUILDING as the Kindergarten then you are allowed to be in the building and that is much safer.
It's semantics to a certain degree, but worth thinking about. I, for one, think it's safer to work in a kindergarten if your ARC allows you to be in that building as opposed to working in a part time job at some other school that has nothing to do with your ARC. People sometimes are nervous about working at a kindy, but then have part time jobs at other schools with no ARC. In my mind, the 2nd is much more dangerous. |
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JZer
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| It's semantics to a certain degree, but worth thinking about. I, for one, think it's safer to work in a kindergarten if your ARC allows you to be in that building as opposed to working in a part time job at some other school that has nothing to do with your ARC. People sometimes are nervous about working at a kindy, but then have part time jobs at other schools with no ARC. In my mind, the 2nd is much more dangerous. |
If you are working at a kindy for HESS I don't think you have much to be worried about. Actually the only risk is working for some rinky dink kindy's that don't bride the police. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| It's semantics to a certain degree, but worth thinking about. I, for one, think it's safer to work in a kindergarten if your ARC allows you to be in that building as opposed to working in a part time job at some other school that has nothing to do with your ARC. People sometimes are nervous about working at a kindy, but then have part time jobs at other schools with no ARC. In my mind, the 2nd is much more dangerous. |
If you are working at a kindy for HESS I don't think you have much to be worried about. Actually the only risk is working for some rinky dink kindy's that don't bride the police. |
Noted. I will avoid places that groom the police. |
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