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veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Hey NCTBA... if you live in Cairo and want to take a taxi out to the pyramids, you tell the taxi driver to take you to Al-Haram.

Being an English speaker you shouldn't be surprised at words that sound similar or even the same but have a different part of speech or more than one definition. Laughing

VS

007 · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:12 am Post subject:

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Clearly they are cognates. What is "holy" is also "forbidden"

Asda · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231

NCTBA, allow me to interject, being somewhat fluent in Ayrabic:

Haram (حرم), as if you were to say "Durham", means sanctuary, i.e. a place you cannot kill animals (apart from the five, as narrated by Aisha: The Prophet said: Five kinds of animals are mischief doers and can be killed even in the Sanctuary: They are the rat, the scorpion, the kite, the crow and the rabid dog. [Sahih Bukhari 54:531].

In addition, you cannot chop down trees, instigate wars amongst other things, which have eluded me maybe. So this word refers to both Makkah and Madinah. Oh, I think unbelievers are not allowed to enter therein.

Haraam (حرام), as if you were to say "Duran", means unlawful or forbidden. And that is the word commonly used to denote something not allowed in the religion.

Hope this helps.

Asda · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231

I forgot to mention that in Haraam (حرام), there is an elongation between the r and m, so it should be said har-ahm.

As for pyramid, which is هرم, uses a different letter, yet still making the H sound.

The ح sound is more glottal (from the throat?) and the ه is more from the stomach and is more like the H sound we make in English.

Asda · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231

...and as 007 quite rightly said, Jerusalem is also a sanctuary...

brasscat · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: Thread, What Thread?

The topic is PMU.

Once again the resident collection has hijacked the topic to show the world how proficient they are in the science of chatter.
brasscat

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject:

I don't know how to respond to you decently, brasscat...so I won't. To the other helpful posters...thanks.

NCTBA

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Al Quds Al-Sherif is indeed a sanctuary.

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:31 am Post subject:

Let's return to PMU, shall we?

desultude · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614

Friends are reporting more shady, slippery, evil doings on the part of the admin. I am not at liberty to give the details, but someone was recently offered a contract to do a job, signed the contract, and the top administrator refused to sign the contract and chose to cut the wage offer drastically.

Wisely, the person who was offered the new, revised offer refused it.

A contract there is as binding as oil. And worth much less.

Many people were required to teach overtime, only to not get the overtime pay, or to get a very small fraction of it, months later.

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 am Post subject:

Bob Gorn · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject:

Do not trust the administrators at PMU to negotiate with you fairly. they will offere a fair contract but it has to be signed at the top, and by hte time it get to the top, the top guy will try to renegotiate it. this will happen after you have turned down every other good contract.

desultude · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614

Yes, I know people who got verbal offers for renewal contracts, turned down other offers and found their renewal contracts were way lower than what was promised.

Fortunately, there are still a lot of jobs out there for the fall, and, except in very special cases, no one should feel obliged to take an contract for less than what they were promised.

Our profession would be a lot better if more people would stand up for themselves and others, and not let themselves be pushed around.