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VFRinterceptor
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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 Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: Applying to Japan from Korea |
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Hey guys, first time posting in this section and I really hope you guys can help me out.
First off, I'm teaching at a hagwon in Korea right now. The school is terrible and management is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, so in other words, it pretty much fits the profile of many other hagwons in Korea.
So I was looking around for jobs and found a plethora of jobs in Japan that pay pretty decent and read many reviews that said the esl system was better in Japan than Korea. The visa is held by the teacher, so if I decide I want to switch schools, its easier to do than in Korea where I am being extorted for 3 mil KRW for a letter of transfer, but that's another story...
Most likely, I will have to do a 'midnight run'. I tried to sort things out amicably with my employer, but they are bent on getting money out of me so I have no choice but to cut ties with them ASAP.
I have my bro and sis coming to visit me next month for a couple of weeks. During that time, they said that they want to take the ferry over to Japan for maybe a couple of days. I was thinking that I could send out my resume to some schools or recruiters, start the visa application process so that by the time they come to visit and we take the ferry to japan, I can visit the potential employers in person and get some interviews done.
Then, we come back to Korea, they spend a few more days here before they go back and I have time to hear back about how my interviews went. Then, once I get a decent offer, I wait til my next payday, grab my stuff, take the ferry to japan while dropping my alien registration card off with the immigration officer in Korea before departing, arrive in Japan with my Japan visa and start working.
One of my main concerns is if I will be able to apply for a Japanese visa while I am still on a Korean E-2 visa?
If there's anyone on here that has experience in this or can even recommend some good schools or recruiters, please don't hesitate to respond or PM. Your help would mean so much.
And also, what documents do I need to apply for my japanese visa if I am trying to teach here? In Korea you need a copy of your diploma, criminal background check, transcripts sealed, and everything has to be apostilled. Might be kind of hard while I'm in Korea, so I'm hoping that the Japanese visa application is a bit easier. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Applying to Japan from Korea |
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| I have my bro and sis coming to visit me next month for a couple of weeks. During that time, they said that they want to take the ferry over to Japan for maybe a couple of days. I was thinking that I could send out my resume to some schools or recruiters, start the visa application process so that by the time they come to visit and we take the ferry to japan, I can visit the potential employers in person and get some interviews done. |
Possible, but August is down time for many employers, plus there is roughly a week in the middle that is a national holiday (Obon). Plan wisely. What kind of teaching were you hoping to land?
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| One of my main concerns is if I will be able to apply for a Japanese visa while I am still on a Korean E-2 visa? |
The two immigration systems don't overlap. Apply away, but you'll need an employer to hire you first.
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| And also, what documents do I need to apply for my japanese visa if I am trying to teach here? |
Teaching work visas come in a few varieties. My best educated guess would be that you need one of two:
ALT work: (instructor visa)
1. Material showing the outline of the recipient organization.
2. Documents certifying the academic career or a copy of an educational license of the person concerned.
3. Documents certifying the professional career of the person concerned.
4. Documents certifying the activity, its duration, the position, and the remuneration of the person concerned.
Eikaiwa work: (specialist in humanities/international relations visa)
1. Copies of the company registration and a statement of profit and loss of the recipient organization.
2. Materials describing the business undertaken by the recipient organization.
3. A diploma or a certificate of graduation with a major in a subject relating to the activity of the person concerned, and documents certifying his or her professional career.
4. Documents certifying the activity, its duration, the position, and the remuneration of the person concerned.
Look here for far more:
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/index.html
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/index.html |
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VFRinterceptor
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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Thank you glenski.
On one of your posts you mentioned seeking out the people the know what they are talking about and spotting the BSers. You are definitely one of the guys who knows what's up.
Unfortunately I will be traveling to Japan with my family mid august, the worst time to go if I'm looking for interviews, but what the heck, I'm going there anyways, so I'll give it my best and hope I can get some interviews.
Right now the focus is:
a) getting my resume out there and making some contacts
b) scheduling interviews!
c) getting as much as I can get done with the whole visa process.
My goal is to head over to Japan sometime in September. Do you think this is feasible?
What job (ALT or Eikawa) do you think is easier to get for someone with no experience teaching in Japan but with some experience in the US and Korea? |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| 3. A diploma or a certificate of graduation with a major in a subject relating to the activity of the person concerned, and documents certifying his or her professional career. |
They really say that? I don't doubt you at all, but it seems to be something they follow only very loosely- I'm not sure how my Spanish major could be connected to eikaiwa work!  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| VFRinterceptor wrote: |
Right now the focus is:
a) getting my resume out there and making some contacts
b) scheduling interviews!
c) getting as much as I can get done with the whole visa process.
My goal is to head over to Japan sometime in September. Do you think this is feasible? |
If you are here in August and manage an interview well enough to get hired very quickly (not something the group-minded, dinosaur-plodding J business mentality is known for), then you still have to wait an average of 4-8 weeks to get the work visa. So, yes, it's possible, but just barely (end of Sept. earliest, IMO), and I wouldn't count on it 100%.
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| What job (ALT or Eikawa) do you think is easier to get for someone with no experience teaching in Japan but with some experience in the US and Korea? |
Well, you've only stated hagwon experience. What have you done in the US?
Eikaiwa would probably be easier, but I have never done ALT work, so I hope others with such will chime in. My best guess would be eikaiwa. Could depend on what you are asking from a job (salary, location, benefits, housing). Put simply, with the market the way it is now (full), it makes sense for employers to take people with more experience, but only if the employer values that. Not all do. A heckuva lot of newbies have zero experience, and people are often hired on the basis of looks or personality instead. I'd say if you want to be treated like a professional, then you will probably be hired only by employers who feel the same way about their staff. |
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