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mishafan03
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Location: Iowa
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 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:23 am Post subject: Visa help pretty please |
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| Ok, as I understand it (and im not sure that I do) in order to teach in China I need to apply for a Z Visa. This is done before I leave for China and is only good for 30 days right? Ok, so then when i get there and have my letter of invitation, i take the z visa, and my passport and the letter to get my "resident something or other stamp" which is what makes me legal to teach. In some other posts i've heard that you have to have at least two years teaching experience to obtain the resident stamp. I dont not have any experience teaching. So this means that no matter what i'm going to be illegal? I'm not sure I like that idea. Thanks in advance for the help. |
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struelle
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: Re: Visa help pretty please |
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According to the letter of the law, yes, you need 2 yrs experience plus references plus teaching degrees. But the laws in China are very much locally applied, so it really depends on the relationship between your prospective employer and the PSB. To make a long story short, if the relationship is established and they are serious about hiring you as a teacher, they can get your residents permit.
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Humbug
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:46 am Post subject: |
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You will need the letter of invitation from your prospective employer before you can apply for the Z visa in your home country. Then when you arrive in China your employer will organise for you
to get the Residence Permit. |
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damasseur
Joined: 13 Jul 2009
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Hi,
I have a few questions too.
Can someone help answer them for me?
After you receive the Residence Permit, how long is it good for?
What happens to your RP if you decide to quit your job after two months working there?
Any advice would be a lot of help
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roadwalker
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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If you receive an invitation letter to apply for a z-visa, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the residence permit, and yes, the school will organize that for you. The z-visa stamp will have the date range within which you can enter China but will have '000' for duration. Yes it is good for 30 days after entry and the embassy will probably remind you of that fact when they hand back your passport. Your school will hopefully arrange a medical check soon after you settle in and when those results come back they should ask for your passport again to apply for your residence permit with the PSB. If they have your passport more than a couple of weeks, bug the school to be sure they have taken care of it.
The residence permit will probably be dated to expire a couple of weeks after the end of the school session/contract time. So if you are at a public school or uni, somewhere mid July. It varies though so check. It's important. |
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struelle
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| What happens to your RP if you decide to quit your job after two months working there? |
This is a big unknown, and a question that lingered in the back of my mind after I considered giving notice twice with my last employer.
Based on how difficult it is to get the RP, for both yourself and the employer, my suggestion is it's best to stick out the job for the duration of the contract, even if things go 'belly up', as my last last experience certainly did.
The prime benefit of having a RP which often lasts past the contract expiration date is you can effectively use it as a multiple entry visa, and easily travel around in-country during breaks and when your job is done with.
Quitting in the middle of a job may compromise the value and usefuless of the RP, and most certainly will be in a pain in the butt to transfer to a new employer.
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spunkmonkey
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: * |
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Is the Z visa a multiple entry visa? Is this automatic, or must you tick a certain box on the visa application form?
This question is based on my Indonesia experience. |
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Molson
Joined: 01 May 2009
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Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Does anyone have a link for the application form one needs to take to the Chinese embassy? I'm waiting on my invitation letter, which should arrive next week. |
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JGC458
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Molson wrote: |
| Does anyone have a link for the application form one needs to take to the Chinese embassy? I'm waiting on my invitation letter, which should arrive next week. |
Aren't they specific to the particular country you're apply in??
You said on another thread that you're in Korea, so wouldn't your application form be in Korean and Chinese?
I'm only guessing mind you, and if you're after an application form in English I know the Chinese Embassy in London's website has them (google, you'll find it).
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Edit:
I was bored, you should find it here:
http://www.visaforchina.org.uk/visaen/visaView.html?method=readNotify¬ifyId=1121#Menu=ChildMenu2 |
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roadwalker
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: * |
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| spunkmonkey wrote: |
Is the Z visa a multiple entry visa? Is this automatic, or must you tick a certain box on the visa application form?
This question is based on my Indonesia experience. |
The z-visa is single entry only. So don't enter until you are sure you won't have to exit for a month or so. As someone wrote above, the Residence Permit, once acquired, can be used as a multi-entry visa, with no apparent limits. So you can skip over to HK or Macao or foreign countries and not worry about re-entering. |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Quitting in the middle of a job may compromise the value and usefuless of the RP, and most certainly will be in a pain in the butt to transfer to a new employer.
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that's an excellent point. RP's kinda owned by your employer, even though in your own passport..ironic, isn't it?
also, if you change employers, you might need your previous employer to not only provide you with a "release letter" but in some places with a "recommandation letter" (apparently from a governmet site). note that "quitting" does not fit with chinese employers well, unless you scare them with some "wrongdoing" of their own.
cheers and beers to our fine roles that're well supported by "agreements" in the country |
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spunkmonkey
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: * |
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| Thanks. |
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