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Noor



Joined: 06 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was unaware that Buddhism, or Buddhist affiliation, elicits negative responses in so many places. In my experience in a couple of dozen countries the response has seemed generally positive.
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kiefer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Noor just an Arabic name, not necessarily Muslim? Like Hanan as in Ashrawi, who is Christian (and her father's name is Daoud)? Or Tariq as in Aziz who is Catholic?

Just Curious Noor. If you were indeed raised Christian, then play it safe and put Christan down.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Noor,

"I was unaware that Buddhism, or Buddhist affiliation, elicits negative responses in so many places."

Mainly in parts of the Middle East and parts of Southeast Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

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John
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Noor



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am aware of some of these contemporary cases cited in the wiki article, as well as Islam's historical role in displacing Buddhism as the majority religion of India. It is without question possible to find any group being persecuted in some corner of the globe.

Noor is indeed an Arabic name, and indeed an Islamic one. As you may know, it means "light," one of the aspects of Allah. A very lovely name, if I may say so.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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as well as Islam's historical role in displacing Buddhism as the majority religion of India.
It didn't. Hinduism did that, as can be seen in South India.
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Noor



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such changes are never easily attributable, but the invasion was the figurative stake in the heart from which it is only now recovering.
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adorabilly



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noor.

As a fellow buddhist let me welcome you to RAK with open arms.

I will also tell you what we were told by MANY folks (including the HR at HCT)

Put christian on any forms. It makes it easier to get things done, with fewer questions.

We had the same question when coming, and were told gently but FIRMLY that it would just be easier for everyone if we just put christian on our forms.
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Green Acres



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would Buddhism be complicated, especially if it were the truth?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Green Acres,
I suspect that most residents of the UAE, including those who review the forms mentioned, would not consider it to be "the truth."
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John
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The obvious answer is that one should not always tell the truth (does that pair of jeans make a part of X's anatomy look big?)

Put Christian on the form... let the students think that you are, but of course, it is not discussed, so you avoid the topic... with your fellow expat teachers, you can be honest if you wish.

If you do a search of the board, you will find that all of the experienced Middle East hands keep saying the same thing... just put Christian... half of us are lying about it. Laughing

VS
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anaxiforminges



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to the wise counsel on this forum, I put "Christian" on my form without batting an eyelid. The thought of jotting down "Lapsed Charismatic Evangelical Episcopalian of the Late Convergence Movement" did occur to me for half a second...

I could almost hear a sigh of relief at the other end when HR received my documents.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear anaxiforminges,
Most adherents simply put "LCEELCM," which is universally understood.
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John
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Noor



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, I think Green Acres is using "the truth" to mean an accurate representation of the religious beliefs of the person completing the form.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Noor,
Yup, I know - but I liked the ambiguity, and, in addition, Green Acres should have written " . . . if it was/is the truth." rather than using the conditional (which would, in fact, mean, that it wasn't the truth.)
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John
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ItsJustMe



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Acres wrote:
Why would Buddhism be complicated, especially if it were the truth?


Is this a hypothetical question?
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