| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
bamboocactus
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 17
|
 Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:37 am Post subject: Houken becomes even more mandatory? |
 |
|
Can anybody confirm this? I recieved it in an email the other day.
I also feel I should inform you that the Ministry of Immigration has recently announced changes to the visa renewal process for foreigner residents in Japan. Applications for change of visa status or renewal will require presentation of a valid health insurance card. I mention this only as many people teaching in Japan are not registered in the full social insurance and the announcement is causing considerable anxiety within the conversation school industry. It is a change from when you were last here, and may be something to be aware of when making plans to return.
--
From my understanding, you need to be a resident first in order to get insurance. Can it be that you need insurance to be a resident, but you need to be a resident to get insurance? I know Japan is ever so fond of making little circles that are ever so freaking hard to break into (cough working visa cough)  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
You like circles and loop holes, don't you? 
It's when you renew that you need to show your NHI card to immigration.
If it's your first time applying for your ARC then of course you wont have NHI and you can ask to apply when you register.
But did you say you were here before? Did you have NHI or private insurance last time? If you were here before, but you hade private insurance you could face back payment bills for up to 3 years.
The other thing immigration have started asking for when you renew your visa is proof that you have paid your ward taxes. I hope you didn't skip out on them the last time you were here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Confirm the news item? Sure. It's been widely broadcast on many forums, stemming from Japanese and English news.
In a nutshell, when you renew a work visa, you will have to show proof of national health insurance.
The bottom line question here is, do you have it now, bamboocactus?
No circles here.
| Quote: |
| Can it be that you need insurance to be a resident, but you need to be a resident to get insurance? |
Residents are obligated by law to have insurance. Period. Tourists cannot sign up for national health insurance because they are not residents. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bamboocactus
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 17
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
| seklarwia wrote: |
| You like circles and loop holes, don't you? |
I sure do! I like beating a system that's trying as hard as it is to keep me out.
Okay, thanks for the replies. Last time I was in Japan I was a student, and was covered by private insurance. I only ever went to a doctor clinic once, at which time I paid cash, so I'm not looking at any charges. Good to know, though.
I also heard something about people landing in Japan need to have a doctor's note (I guess this means getting checked up by a Japanese doctor) within 30 days, due to the H1N1 scare. Can anyone confirm that as well? Because no, I haven't seen anything about it "widely circulated". Just looking for a little yes or no action. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| bamboocactus wrote: |
| seklarwia wrote: |
| You like circles and loop holes, don't you? |
I sure do! I like beating a system that's trying as hard as it is to keep me out. |
The wink means nothing. You have a vanilla BA degree and barely any teaching experience. You claim to speak better than "survival" Japanese, too.
Spraying your resume around (as you worded it) is one way to get attention. Just how good looking your resume and cover letter appear may be the reason you aren't getting noticed. I can't say. You claim to be in Thailand, so you know you have to be here to interview for most jobs.
So, with all these facts nicely explained way back when...
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=72517&highlight=
...I for one would wish you would stop saying someone is trying to keep you out (wink notwithstanding).
Keep at it. Get someone to look at your resume and CL. Shotgunning is only shooting at the broad target. Your ammo may not be up to snuff.
| Quote: |
| I also heard something about people landing in Japan need to have a doctor's note (I guess this means getting checked up by a Japanese doctor) within 30 days, due to the H1N1 scare. Can anyone confirm that as well? Because no, I haven't seen anything about it "widely circulated". Just looking for a little yes or no action. |
Cannot confirm this. Never heard of it, and a coworker just returned from California, and 3 others from Malawi. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| bamboocactus wrote: |
| I sure do! I like beating a system that's trying as hard as it is to keep me out. |
I don't think its trying to keep you out; only trying to ensure that everyone that is coming in for more than a visit is going to be able to support themselves.
| Quote: |
| I also heard something about people landing in Japan need to have a doctor's note (I guess this means getting checked up by a Japanese doctor) within 30 days, due to the H1N1 scare. |
Where did you hear or read this? Interac are normally very good at telling us things if it is in their interest to make sure we know. They know that I'm flying to the UK next week, but haven't expressed any concern about it.
In any case, I'm going up to immigration on Monday. If they have introduced any new procedures, I'm sure I'll find out then.
Last edited by seklarwia on Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:46 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ntropy
Joined: 11 Oct 2003
Posts: 671
Location: ghurba
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I know most of you guys think you're young and indestructible, but anytime you travel anywhere in the world without health insurance is just stupid. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Glenski wrote: |
In a nutshell, when you renew a work visa, you will have to show proof of national health insurance.
|
I believe you can also show them proof of private company health insurance as well (not a rinky-dink company, or travel insurance, I mean if you work full-time directly for a private high school - not dispatch- and are enrolled on their health insurance, like every Japanese teacher in the school, because that kind of health insurance is a requirement of being employed directly, and so national health would just be paying twice).
Basically, you need to show them that you have the same level of health insurance as any fully employed Japanese person has, and for most foreign people, that will mean national health insurance. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bamboocactus
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 17
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for your responses guys!
As for the 30 day thing I can't recall where I heard it... SOME website, either an employer or something else. But I just wanted to see if anyone else had heard of it.
Hey Glenski, quit being such a curmudgeon. Remember a while back when you got called out for being an old *beep* with nothing nice to say and the moderator had to close the thread? That was fun. Don't be jealous because my Japanese rocks yours.  Oh, and I never claimed to be in Thailand. Looks like your'e getting senile.
@seklarwia: That's true. Sometimes it's hard to think that the system isn't stacked againt us though; and even many Japanese I know admit that the general feeling of the country is still pretty xenophobic. It's a bummer but it's certainly better now than it was a century ago, or even five years ago!
@GambateBingBangBOOM: Ahhh. Yeah, that makes sense. I know there's different levels of insurance, but I always figured it would be the national variety that I'd be needing. Thanks for the clarification |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ryu Hayabusa
Joined: 08 Jan 2008
Posts: 182
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Keep up the ad hominem attacks, bamboocactus, and this thread might soon be closed too. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mr. Kalgukshi
Mod Team
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Posts: 6613
Location: Need to know basis only.
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| The OP is now history, as his IP. Trolling, insulting & attacking other members and commenting publicly on Mod actions is a guaranteed formula for a one-way ticket out of here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
