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Impossible English pronunciation
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guty



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with several teachers in the gulf who just couldnt ever say
"Ill get this round"
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Capergirl



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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word with an r in the middle of it poses a problem for my Russian and Angolan students. A couple of days ago, we were doing a lesson on letter writing and one of the students asked me if it was okay to substitute sincerely for "regrets" (or at least that is what I'd thought he'd said). Eventually, we cleared up the confusion. It was regards that he has been trying to say. Rolling the r made the word sound like "regrads" (or regrets). The students, however, insisted that they were saying it exactly as I was. Rolling Eyes

Like arioch36, my students also have trouble distinguishing between certain words that are similiar like smile and smell, bed and bad, noun and known, etc.
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Snoopy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When trying to teach Arab students, one has to attempt to counteract the effects of their Egyptian schoolteachers. All those extra syllables and the expectation of being sold the test papers. Yes, I am being racist. It is all based on experience.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder whether Americans in general know how to pronounce LOCH as in Loch Nessi? Laughing

As for my Chinese learners, they simply can't differentiate between long and short syllables (sleep versus slip, this versus these), nor do they recognise diphtongs - arioch's example was a case in point, others include: Ride versus red, mind versus mend and so on;
the TH is another tricky sound, as is R as in walk which routinely gets pronounced as work.
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurochan, I thank you...

LA
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caper,
if your students are having problems with 'smell' and 'smile' then( I'm linking threads here) fart in the classroom.

"Today, class I'm going to smell.

Now I'm going to smile"

They'll soon learn the difference
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leeroy



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A note left to my father by his (Polish) cleaner..

Quote:
Dear Mr. ----

AT beginning of April I will leave London on Easter. I hope so, that you understand me, I didn't see my family eight months. Next two weeks I will come normal. I left some s.hit in dryer.

Thanks

----


Imagine my father's relief on opening the washing machine/dryer that instead of the aforementioned excrament there were instead some sheets. Smile

This could be explained in TEFLese, I suppose, by hypothesising that she had presented her false phonological interpretation of the word "sheet" in written form with unintentionally humourous results.
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curveegrrl



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan - How would the students say my name?? Ka-bi-ga? That would be fun too.

The worst for me is when I start picking up the students' mistakes. Pronunciation and grammar. I caught myself reading "very" as "wery" the other day. And I don't use nearly as many articles as I used to.
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guest of Japan



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ka bi ga ru. The r sound is a mix between an l and an r.

You're not alone in butchering your native tongue.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
ka bi ga ru. The r sound is a mix between an l and an r.

You're not alone in butchering your native tongue.

The inhabitants of the west coast of Scotland have been doing it for centuries
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