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No Degree - Looking for work in Jeddah
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Mehdi72



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: No Degree - Looking for work in Jeddah Reply with quote
What are my chances of finding work in Jeddah without a degree? I am a native England born English speaker, don't have a strong regional accent and consider myself well spoken. I worked as a EFL teacher for 2 years, have taught privately for 3 years and recently completed a TEFL course. Which companies are more open to hiring teachers without degrees?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What are my chances of finding work in Jeddah without a degree?


Practically zero.

If you dont' have a degree (with the papers to prove it) you won't get a work visa from the Saudi embassy. In fact, many jobs require you to have a Master's degree. Someone may come on and tell you that they know someone who fixed up a job without a degree, but believe me, even if you could do this, you wouldn;t want to work in such a job.
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Mehdi72



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cleopatra wrote:
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What are my chances of finding work in Jeddah without a degree?


Practically zero.

If you dont' have a degree (with the papers to prove it) you won't get a work visa from the Saudi embassy.


Not according to the Saudi Arabia Embassy in the UK.

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In fact, many jobs require you to have a Master's degree. Someone may come on and tell you that they know someone who fixed up a job without a degree, but believe me, even if you could do this, you wouldn;t want to work in such a job.


My sister in law, who is not a native English speaker and is in fact Russian and has no qualifications whatsoever, teaches English at a University in Riyadah.

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear Medhi72,

"My sister in law, who is not a native English speaker and is in fact Russian and has no qualifications whatsoever, teaches English at a University in Riyadah so it's not impossible."

And the university is fully aware that she has no qualifications? And she was hired outside of the Kingdom?

I'm sorry, Medhi72, but even if the answers to the two questions above are "Yes" (and I very much doubt they will be), I'd say that you're giving yourself some really bad "false hope" here.

Regards,
John
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Mehdi72



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
Dear Medhi72,

"My sister in law, who is not a native English speaker and is in fact Russian and has no qualifications whatsoever, teaches English at a University in Riyadah so it's not impossible."

And the university is fully aware that she has no qualifications?


Yes.

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And she was hired outside of the Kingdom?


No.

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I'm sorry, Medhi72, but even if the answers to the two questions above are "Yes" (and I very much doubt they will be), I'd say that you're giving yourself some really bad "false hope" here.

Regards,
John


I know several people who found work in Saudi on visitors visas so I'm not sure about false hope.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear Medhi72,
I take it that you're not in Saudi now. What kind of "visitor's visa" are you planning on getting. Are you going to go on Umrah or join a government approved tour group? Are you going to be on a "family visit?"
There are, of course, no usual "tourist visas" - besides the ones mentioned above. And, of course, if you go on a "visitor's visa" and find work, you will be doing so illegally.
Now if the employer you find has LOTS of wasta, you MIGHT be able to get your "visitor's visa" changed to a work visa. But please heed our warnings.
The chances are extreme that you will be getting yourself into a world of trouble if you pursue this course of action.
Regards,
John
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Mehdi72



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will go on a family visit. I can't go on an Umra visa as I would have to leave the country before the end of Ramadan which doesn't give a great deal of time to find work. Your advice is noted.
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Cleopatra



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