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C76



Joined: 13 Jun 2003
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Location: somewhere between beauty and truth...in Toronto. ;)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got another question. How long did it take you (anyone) to get a reply to your original email to EC?

I read something about them not saying anything until May. Maybe I misunderstood. Embarassed

Anxious as usual...

I really would like to go. Especially if I can find a decent company. Cool
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refazenda



Joined: 08 Mar 2004
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Location: El Salvador, Central America

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:52 pm    Post subject: I wrote them recently Reply with quote

I wrote them after this thread started. They responded right away, telling me about the error, and refunded my fee the same day. They said at that time that they would get back to me in May. Had I not contacted them, I assume I would not have heard anything until May.

Who else out there paid the fee? Was it refunded to you?
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Julieanne



Joined: 18 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Director and owner of the school is Canadian and treats the teachers with complete respect. For example I was teaching Adult ESL and when the student cancelled less than 24 hours, I was still paid for the class even if I didn't go. The Director actually protects the teacher over the clients. I worked for another ESL school in Mexico and it was not the same. The school is expanding across the country because ironically, of its great reputation.
Unfortunately, the Director told me that they are going to look at applicants within Mexico first because she was a little turned off about applicants from this site for bashing the school so quickly. She understood everyones concerns that received the wrong e-mail but told me the problem was that 1500 e-mails were sent to her in 2 days and an error draft was sent to only about 50. The error was realized in about a day and was rectified as quickly as possible. Refunds were issued immediately if anyone actually paid. By the way why are people complaining that didn't pay? So you didn't pay and you didn't apply, where is the loss? And people calling her scam without sufficient info. and also calling it scam because she is offering a good salary?!!! Come on people. Don't be so paranoid.
I was angry myself at all this because I know how bad the working conditions can be in some ESL schools and Elementary schools in Mexico and it was unfair to say things about this particular school.
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C76



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, given the deluge of resumes, etc., would it be wise to eventually send a follow-up email?

Even if she isn't going to reply until May, I'm still worried.
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refazenda



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:54 am    Post subject: Follow up email Reply with quote

I have been in the position of having hundreds of applicants for a position. I had a stock response prepared to let applicants know that I received their resume. In that response, however, I explicitly stated that due to the large number of applicants, we would be unable to respond to anyone with whom we were not following up. So despite now being on the other end of the process, I can understand why EC would not be able to contact everyone about the status of their application.

You could always send a follow-up email in a month. By then the deluge of emails would have possibly ended, and you would have a better chance of a response.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julieanne wrote:
Unfortunately, the Director told me that they are going to look at applicants within Mexico first because she was a little turned off about applicants from this site for bashing the school so quickly.
And people calling her scam without sufficient info. and also calling it scam because she is offering a good salary?!!! Come on people. Don't be so paranoid.


Many, many warnings have been posted on eslcafe.com telling of scams exactly like the EC posting: send money up-front and maybe you'll get a job.

Because people are leery of being ripped-off, you call us paranoid? Evil or Very Mad I'm genuinely offended.
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Julieanne



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: IT WASN'T A SCAM! Reply with quote

If you had followed it up further you would have known that!
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C76



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand someone reacting like me--being deer-caught-in-the-headlights shocked. Shocked

But

At the risk of getting beat up, don't you guys think it was a bit mean to scream "Scam!" Embarassed
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: In defense.. Reply with quote

Hiyas,

I don't think anyone (well, not me, anyway) was 'screaming' scam, but it looked highly suspicious to be getting paid so much for a job in Mexico, and then when paying for an exam before actually being hired got brought up, well, it did come across as a bit concerning.

My attitude was that we were all talking about this ad, kind of bouncing ideas off each other, because sometimes you just need to talk things through with other people. Sometimes its important to 'jump to conclusions quickly' to avoid complete disaster...

I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone, simply to point out that on the information received, it looked pretty fishy, and for people to be careful. I still think having to pay to sit a Spanish exam in order to get through the immigration process is highly suspect. Like I said, I got through my immigration stuff fine, as did my colleagues who have a lot less Spanish than I do.

Also, unless there's something really weird going on only with my computer, hasn't the whole start of the post disappeared???

Now that the whole matter has been cleared up, I would even consider applying for the jobs myself, if I was planning to stick around in Mexico after July.

Anyway, have a good day.

Lozwich.
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