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shoo-fly-pie
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alter ego

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 209
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Good feature article about young expats looking for job opportunities in business-related fields other than teaching. Good news for teachers, too, as China's growing economy means more jobs in education across the board. Business, as the saying goes, is booming! |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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From the article. Something most of us knew all along:
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�Sarabeth is always taking initiative and thinking what we can do,� he said, �while I think the more standard Chinese approach is to take orders.� He says the difference is rooted in the educational system. �In Chinese schools students are encouraged to be quiet and less outspoken; it fosters a culture of listening more than initiating.� |
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crunchyone
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:32 am Post subject: |
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kev7161 wrote: |
From the article. Something most of us knew all along:
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�Sarabeth is always taking initiative and thinking what we can do,� he said, �while I think the more standard Chinese approach is to take orders.� He says the difference is rooted in the educational system. �In Chinese schools students are encouraged to be quiet and less outspoken; it fosters a culture of listening more than initiating.� |
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This is directly related to class size. If there are 60 students, and a 60 minute period, the students get one minute of speaking each, if the teacher says nothing.....
Cut this down to 15 students, and you are getting somewhere.
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nobleignoramus
Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 208 Location: On the road
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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We can therefore count on witnessing a growing influx of unsuitable, oncompetent and unmotivated foreign 'teachers' that will help send the rate on the grouchiness barometer up. |
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Mister Al

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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nobleignoramus wrote: |
We can therefore count on witnessing a growing influx of unsuitable, oncompetent and unmotivated foreign 'teachers' that will help send the rate on the grouchiness barometer up. |
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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nobleignoramus wrote: |
We can therefore count on witnessing a growing influx of unsuitable, oncompetent and unmotivated foreign 'teachers' that will help send the rate on the grouchiness barometer up. |
"oncompetent"
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vikuk

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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We can therefore count on witnessing a growing influx of unsuitable, oncompetent and unmotivated foreign 'teachers' that will help send the rate on the grouchiness barometer up. |
One thing for sure - those who don't hit the grade, and need extra funds to move on - will start moving into the lowest echelon of ex-pat employment - the EFL world.
With a glut of attractive Americans - especially in the big cities of commerce like GZ - some could start feeling worried for their work - especially non-native speakers.
No wonder NobleIg sounds a little irritated
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Duboshi
Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 11 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Who said anything about attractive Americans? Don't you know they're the most obese people in the world? |
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nobleignoramus
Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 208 Location: On the road
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Duboshi wrote: |
Who said anything about attractive Americans? Don't you know they're the most obese people in the world? |
Either you were dreaming that their academic backgrounds are commensurate with their obesity.
Or you were saying more planes have to come down from the skies before they hit their destinations. |
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Zero
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised the New York Times would even print this story. There are no statistics. It's a strong of anecdotes about young people working in China. Where's the news? Who's to say if it's a growing trend or not? |
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dragon777
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 163 Location: Christmas Island
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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What a load of "poppy cock!"
Nothing to do with Esl teaching. Of course the Chinese economy is getting bigger and a few more Americans are coming to the shores of the Chinese Peoples Republic. But coming to China is not just an economic necessity it takes a little determination and a well thought out mental plan. |
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