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Ballpark figure for a 1-bedroom apt in a compound in Riyadh
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snowsilver



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Ballpark figure for a 1-bedroom apt in a compound in Riyadh Reply with quote

I've looked and looked at compund websites and no one gives a hint on rental costs.

Will 3,000/mo cover the cost of a 1-bedroom apt at a decent compound?

Thanks
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3000 what...pebbles?

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snowsilver



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riyals

And actually upon rechecking the contract I shoud have said 2,500 riyals.

Thank you for any help.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be coy or difficult, but what do you consider to be a "decent" compound. Many will be happy with just a wall thrown around it. Others consider a wave pool to be "decent". It's like the ol' "How long is a piece of string" question. Who knows unless definitions are involved?

Is this "your" money or a housing allowance.

BTW, didja ever notice that 2500 divided by 3.75...the most used conversion rate equals 666?

Food for thought...

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snowsilver



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well--no I never noticed that. Very interesting and provocative.

As for decent--for instance, could I find anything in the nicer compounds (Kingdom City, Al Homra) for that?

I want security and some amenities. Not housekeeping or anything like that, but some recreational facilities, pleasant apartment with nice furnishings, etc. Not palatial, but decent quality.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Oh--and this is housing allowance.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll more than cover the cost of a decent unfurnished apartment. The problem is the compound thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
It'll more than cover the cost of a decent unfurnished apartment. The problem is the compound thing.


What problem is that?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...I sincerely doubt that you'll find something like that for the SAR 2500 in the compounds that you mentioned.

You mentioned the "Al Homra" (Al Hambra) and security nearly in the same breath. Surely, you are unaware that that compound was one of the three bombed on May 19, 2003. This specific one is where the murderers went kicking door to door killing innocent women and children.

It still brings a tear to me eye remembering how "brave" those murderers were.

Hopeully, by drawing out some more specfic information on what you hope for there will be people who can help you further...

BTW, by jes' googlin' "prices of villas on compounds in riyadh", I got dis:

http://riyadhciti.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/the-ultimate-list-of-compounds-in-riyadh/

Good luck...
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snowsilver



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's exactly the website I have been reading. It's wonderful for showing the various apartments available, (and they look lovely, btw), but not one of the ones I clicked gave any information at all on costs.

Just tons of info on amenities, etc.

Yes, I knew about Al Hambra (actually watched "The Kingdom" just the other night), but from what I can find on the internet, it is now one of the most secure compounds possible just because of that. And one has to wonder--would they strike twice in the same place.

I guess what I'm wondering really is about how much it will cost to rent one of the lovely apts shown.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear snowsilver,
Have you seen this site yet?

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582073

Question asked Jan 6, 2009

"Just as a rough guide what would a 3-bed / large 2-bed villa cost to rent in the popular compounds please, if you can guesstimate?
Al Hamra
Kingdom
Eid
Cordoba
Arizona

Cheers!
Eid for what you're describing is about the 160k+ mark for a 2x bed and around the 200k for a 3x bed. a basic two bedder (1x month ago) was 130k and they head upwards (very steeply!) from there"

"3-bed in Kingdom about 180K I think. There are two types of 3 bed one larger than the other with a separate dining room. Think 180K is for the latter

Contact number for Kingdom +96612750275, manager is Ed Lans
Contact number for Al Hamra is +96612480440 manager is Dave Smart"

"Eid compound is... +96612483366 and try and speak with Girish
Arizona is +96612484444 (sorry, don't know the manager's name)
Cordoba is +96612483471 (and again, sorry, don't know the manager's name)"

And an older thread - from 2005

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307276

Here's a list of compounds in Riyadh with contact info, posted Feb, 2009:

http://riyadhciti.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/the-ultimate-list-of-compounds-in-riyadh/

Hope some of this helps,
John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowsilver wrote:
Yes, that's exactly the website I have been reading. It's wonderful for showing the various apartments available, (and they look lovely, btw), but not one of the ones I clicked gave any information at all on costs.

Just tons of info on amenities, etc.

Yes, I knew about Al Hambra (it doesn't have high-rises on it...NO compound does!) (actually watched "The Kingdom" just the other night),

Filmed in Abu Dhabi, by the way...you can see my apartment block in many of the scenes...

but from what I can find on the internet, it is now one of the most secure compounds possible just because of that.

And one has to wonder--would they strike twice in the same place.

Ah, yes! The infallability on Gulf-logic-based thinking!

I guess what I'm wondering really is about how much it will cost to rent one of the lovely apts shown.

That might very well involve using the ol' crowbar on wallet action. Nothing like a quote from the horse's mouth Give 'em a call! Very Happy



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Grendal



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

160k+ mark for a 2x bed. That comes to 13333.333+ riyals a month.
ouch + double ouch

That is more than some/most teachers' wages.

Who could possibly live there?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Grendal,

The companies pay, which is why teachers are extremely thin to non-existent on the ground in such compounds. We're not in that ballpark, so to speak.

"The main areas where Westerners work in Saudi Arabia are defense, healthcare, and the oil industry. IT, telecommunications and banking are other areas that employ substantial numbers of Americans and Europeans."

http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/56/Working_in_Saudi_Arabia.html

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hunch for a teacher with little resources is Ranco Villiage....which was know as the O-3 Compound when we lived in this little dump...I say "dump" as, in my estimation, if you can see daylight through the cracks in the door...you can be liberal with adjectives.

TBS, this is probably a very afforrdable compound...especially at the "Motel 6" which is their one-bedroom accoms.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
That is more than some/most teachers' wages.

Who could possibly live there?


I didn't know that compounds were only for teachers, or that everybody in Saudi was a teacher.

You can't imagine that some people are paid SR. 30,000 a month? Even SR. 100,000 a month? Or even SR. 450,000 a month (CFO of National Commercial Bank)?

What Western teachers/instructors are paid in Saudi and other Gulf countries are the lowest salaries among all Westerners in said countries. (but some of the highest salaries among all expats)

Your average Western manager, geologist, banker, analyst, etc. (i.e., non-teacher) in Saudi earns typically SR. 30,000 to SR. 100,000 per month.
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