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China Job Article - Some good tips for newbies

 
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TianjinPaul



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: China Job Article - Some good tips for newbies Reply with quote

http://www.echinacities.com/main/ExpatCorner/ExpatsCorner.aspx?n=3542
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my experiences are different, and I'd say the following are some inaccuracies in that article:

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Let's start with public schools and universities. There are two basic considerations here, holidays and salary. The salary in public schools is likely to be quite modest - as low as 4,000 or 5,000rmb in some cities (a little higher in Beijing or Shanghai). Universities tend to be a little higher, pushing closer to the 10,000 mark

typical university salaries are more likely to be between RMB4500 - 6000. That's closer to 5000 than it is to the 10,000 mark.

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Many - although certainly not all as I do not wish to generalize - of the teachers working in public education tend to fall into two categories.

� The first are youngsters, often straight out of university, who are using a teaching job as a base from which to see China.

After several years in China, I've yet to work with any of these "youngsters." Of the 20 different FTs I've worked with in China, most have been in the 35-70 year old range and none were straight out of university. I think people right out of university tend to go to korea or japan so as to make some cash to pay off loans.

Instead of two categories (1. youngsters, and 2. those who want to make a commitment to education) I'd have these two categories:

1. the teacher who shows up on time, is able to keep his/her class engaged, does a thorough job without prodding, is generally well-liked, and doesn't whine about everything in sight; and

2. the drunken lout who shows up hungover for half their classes, shows up for work late and leaves early, worries about how to get laid on the weekend, and is generally more concerned about his/her benefits and less concerned with the job.

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Now, let's move onto the private sector, which includes local private schools as well as major international companies providing language training and teaching. In this sphere, the money is better, but the hours longer and demands greater. This is the sector that attracts those looking for a little more stability

i've worked in private schools (but not in China) and if the stories on this forum are any indication (read the current thread on the linguaphone shenzhen closing) then these places provide anything but stability.

If someone coming to China were to ask me where to find "stability" in the workplace I'd recommend them to a public uni with a track record of hiring foreigners. Here they'd find a low workload, decent salary and a chance to acclimate to China more easily.
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id add a third kind .... and this is (in my opinion) worse than any other teacher type.

3 - American Bible Basher. Calls his apartment a church on sunday and has similar weird friends over and sings songs. Uses China as a recruiting ground, and tells students that Jesus can help them pass the CET 6 exam.

Very generic article. Not very informative IMO
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happigur1



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ever-changing Cleric wrote:


Instead of two categories (1. youngsters, and 2. those who want to make a commitment to education) I'd have these two categories:

1. the teacher who shows up on time, is able to keep his/her class engaged, does a thorough job without prodding, is generally well-liked, and doesn't whine about everything in sight; and

2. the drunken lout who shows up hungover for half their classes, shows up for work late and leaves early, worries about how to get laid on the weekend, and is generally more concerned about his/her benefits and less concerned with the job.



Laughing so true.... <sigh>
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