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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betty Rubble wrote:
So is there anything nice about teaching at a bilingual elementary school? I was really excited about the offer I just got, specifically because it isn't at a language school, but at a bilingual elementary school that has a well established curriculum to use and I would be teaching other subjects besides English.

I teach at a bilingual prepa. I don't hate it that much... lol, no it's ok really. I teach world lit which makes a change from teaching straight English. It's a whole different thing though, teaching subjects in English.

One thing I would say is that 'bilingual' is used here to mean anything from 50% - 80% of the curruculum in English (the SEP won't allow more than 80%) or it could just mean that the school has English on the curriculum.

I'd say check the curriculum thoroughly and see what kind of system they use. If it really is bilingual then go for it but if it's not then it'll just be one long headache.
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FreddyM



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betty Rubble wrote:
So is there anything nice about teaching at a bilingual elementary school? I was really excited about the offer I just got, specifically because it isn't at a language school, but at a bilingual elementary school that has a well established curriculum to use and I would be teaching other subjects besides English. Of course, I am an elementary school teacher here in the States, so I am used to large class sizes and a demanding work load. But after reading this post and some others, I got nervous about what I'm getting myself into. What are some red flags I should watch for?? I am negotiating contract terms at the moment, and they are wanting my decision soon, so any advice would be helpful... thanks


If you are an experienced teacher and know how to handle the kids, the parents, and your bosses then you shouldn't have any outrageous problems that you wouldn't be able to deal with. I think most of the people that have had problems dealing with the kids, parents and administration in this country is because they don't really have the experience and training that most certified teachers get. Most TEFL certificate programs do not give you that sort of training (hell, most state teacher certification programs don't give you the training you need either!). The more experience you have the better you'll be able to adapt comfortably.
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Betty Rubble



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it is a 50% bilingual school then, because the classes are split and they spend half the day with the English teacher (me), and half the day with their Spanish teacher. So I will actually have two classes a day. I actually enjoy working in schools where the parents are highly involved- I think they should be. I am going to accept the position- I sure can't find any jobs up here! They answered all of my questions satisfactorily, and have been super nice and accommodating. So I guess you'll be seeing a lot more of me for the next year... Dave's was my lifeline when I was in Korea!
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dixie



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betty Rubble wrote:
I guess it is a 50% bilingual school then, because the classes are split and they spend half the day with the English teacher (me), and half the day with their Spanish teacher. So I will actually have two classes a day. I actually enjoy working in schools where the parents are highly involved- I think they should be. I am going to accept the position- I sure can't find any jobs up here! They answered all of my questions satisfactorily, and have been super nice and accommodating. So I guess you'll be seeing a lot more of me for the next year... Dave's was my lifeline when I was in Korea!


What part of Mexico will you be in?

Freddy gave good advice.

Teaching two groups might seem like twice the work load but remember: you should be making one lesson and doing it twice. It's nice in that it allows you to improve asap.

Don't wish too much for strong parent involvement; it's not likely what you will have in mind!

Also remember bilingual teaching is NOT about teaching English per say but about teaching subjects (lit, math, science, etc.) in English. In my opinion it requires a different skill set then language school teaching (and vice versa).

I teach prepa and just love it. I have never enjoyed a job more!
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dixie wrote:
Don't wish too much for strong parent involvement; it's not likely what you will have in mind!

Quite, bear in mind we have reached a point where the student is no longer just a student, he/she is the customer - rather his/her parents are the customers, and will want to know why their little brat isn't passing when they're paying so much money.

dixie wrote:
Also remember bilingual teaching is NOT about teaching English per say but about teaching subjects (lit, math, science, etc.) in English. In my opinion it requires a different skill set then language school teaching (and vice versa).

We just finished a course which looked at things like CLIL, VLEs and blended learning. Definitely worth looking into if you teach subjects in English.
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cummings93



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: bi lingual schools Reply with quote

I spent 3 years in Mex, two of them teaching at Mexican Bi lingual schools, and the last teaching at an American School. In short, the bi lingual schools were very disorganized on almost every level and the support from staff, colleagues, and administration was non existent. Often I would wonder if I was on a totally hidden video show, seriously. It just got to be so ridiculous and unbelievable. As Americans, we weren't treated very respectfully at all and were forced to put on plays and teach the kids songs so they could put on multiple shows to entertain the parents and often told to serve the parents food after the shows, really wierd stuff. These two schools were also very dishonest. O one instance I moved from one part of Mexico to another under the impression that I had a full time job, only to find out that they were only giving me part time when I arrived. I then made up the hours working as an assistant for my free hours and making $30/ pesos an hour. I stayed because I liked the kids, they were fun we really enjoyed our time together. But the parents, most of them, were impossible and acted like the privileged aristocracy they believe themselves to be.
My final year I worked in an American-esque School and was paid well, and everybody communicated well, the kids were great, the parents were awesome, and it was pretty much the greatest year of teaching I ever had.
I do not if this helps, but I sort of got to thinking about the past 3 years of my life.
saludos
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Professor



Joined: 22 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda,

stay away from the kids here in Mexico. Especially the rich ones. I saw them just get up and walk out of classes while the teacher was in the middle of a lecture. The kids here do what they want if the parents are rich.
It doesn't matter what some who post here say about teachers just not having the experience to teach kids, the rich kids here are TERRIBLE. And the universities are kind of like the language schools in that they will want you to follow their approach or system. Teach for yourself and you won't have to deal with all of the above.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jfurgers: not all students in private ("rich"?) schools are "terrible", obviously, and not all private schools are run the same. It goes without saying that some schools are poorly managed and others are managed quite well. Go after what feels comfortable for you. Some people prefer a steady income and the comraderie of working with other teachers. Others can afford the flexibility and like to work alone. It's all about personal choices.
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