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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I would recommend places like Oman. Pay is not grand... some of the employers/managements not stellar... but you can do a couple years at university level in an interesting country with mostly lovely students... pay the bills... ...even save a bit (assuming that you didn't leave crippling education loans behind) In the end you have that required ME post MA experience... taa...daa...

Another place that often hires new MAs is Qatar University. They normally interview at TESOL. And all teachers start at about $3700.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the British system - which considers the CELTA and DELTA to be superior to an MA and thus wouldn't consider having an MA to be a requirement for a trainer. This is a debate that you will get to listen to and/or take part in regularly (endlessly? repetitively? ad nauseum?) in the ME Faculty offices. Laughing

When you go to TESOL in March to apply for jobs for next August, (assuming that you are able to do so), try to take something from you university showing that you will graduate that semester, and if you have been accepted for the CELTA, take that letter too...

Can't hurt... might help... Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that everyone in your CELTA group would be fresh out of college - or might there be some with BEds with teaching experience who might have some meaningful feedback to give?

Also, if the CELTA is supposed to enhance your chances of employment and the lack of same might put you at a disadvantage to those who have it competing for the same job - would the payback time be an issue if someone else gets the job?

Just some thoughts - not criticizing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

helenl wrote:
Are you sure that everyone in your CELTA group would be fresh out of college - or might there be some with BEds with teaching experience who might have some meaningful feedback to give?

Also, if the CELTA is supposed to enhance your chances of employment and the lack of same might put you at a disadvantage to those who have it competing for the same job - would the payback time be an issue if someone else gets the job?

Just some thoughts - not criticizing.


Per my interviewing tutor, "You will be much more experienced than the other trainees."

I guess that outside of North America, there are CELTA courses where a larger percentage of trainees have experience. Here in NYC, most of the people taking CELTA and other TESOL certificate programs have almost no experience or formal education in the field.

Thinking about all the variables about the real cost of the certificate gets mind boggling for non-economists like me; I'll just make the assumption that it will pay for itself over the two years and leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Economically speaking... if you plan to be in the field for many years, the investment in that CELTA will be a drop in the bucket. Especially in the Middle East, every employer will consider it a plus, even though it might be the MA that is required.

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